ISU (Infinite Spongy Universe) Model - SciForums Update 2018

[paddoboy]

I understand the reasoning behind those who take the position that the source of gravitational wave energy is mostly massive events, like you say.

Gravitational waves, like frame dragging, are essentially very small, and only able to be detected by massive collisions.
https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/gravita...onal waves detected,miles (4 kilometers) long.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIGO

However, in the ISU model, all objects with mass emit as well as absorb gravitational waves as part of the process, and so the energy traversing the space between massive objects is continually absorbed and reemitted. One important premise of the model is that objects move in the direction of the net highest source of gravitation waves arriving from the surrounding space.

And yet to be verified.

 

[quantum_wave]

Exactly

And they would also interfere with each other .

Agreed. Interference would occur when gravitational waves intersect and overlap. and in the model, intersecting gravitation waves cause high energy density spots that have mass.

 

[paddoboy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIGO
The Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO) is a large-scale physics experiment and observatory to detect cosmic gravitational waves and to develop gravitational-wave observations as an astronomical tool.[1] Two large observatories were built in the United States with the aim of detecting gravitational waves by laserinterferometry. These can detect a change in the 4 km mirror spacing of less than a ten-thousandth the charge diameter of a proton.[

 

[river]

river said: ↑
Exactly

And they would also interfere with each other .

Agreed. Interference would occur when gravitational waves intersect and overlap. and in the model, intersecting gravitation waves cause high energy density spots that have mass.

Which has nothing to do with spacetime .

To your last statement ;

Define what these " spots " are .

 

[quantum_wave]

Highlighted

Interesting ;

The net highest source of gravitational waves fluctuates .

Yes, as objects move in response to the momentary sources of gravitational wave energy, the directional net source is continually changing, and so the motion of all objects is curved paths in response to the changing profile of wave energy in the surrounding space, according to the model.

What is the medium ? Of GW ( gravitational waves ) .

I simply refer to it as the medium of space that is filled with gravitational wave energy coming and going from massive objects, given that those waves have an infinite reach. Space in infinite and all space is filled with gravitational wave energy, according to the model.

 

[quantum_wave]

Which has nothing to do with spacetime .

To your last statement ;

Define what these " spots " are .

 

[river]

Get your point ;

In the Universe , where do these " spots " make themselves known , observable .

 

[paddoboy]

Which has nothing to do with spacetime .
.

I simply refer to it as the medium of space that is filled with gravitational wave energy coming and going from massive objects, given that those waves have an infinite reach. Space in infinite and all space is filled with gravitational wave energy, according to the model.

Gravitational waves are ripples in spacetime itself.
Gravity is spacetime geometry.

 

[river]

Quantum_wave continue . ....

 

[paddoboy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_wave
Gravitational waves are disturbances in the curvature of spacetime, generated by accelerated masses, that propagate as waves outward from their source at the speed of light.

 

[river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_wave
Gravitational waves are disturbances in the curvature of spacetime, generated by accelerated masses, that propagate as waves outward from their source at the speed of light.

We have established that spacetime has no Density . No Real physical properties . Hence spacetime cannot , " curve " . Anything . Because of gravity .

 

[paddoboy]

We have established that spacetime has no Density . Hence spacetime cannot , " curve " .

That may follow in your mind, but it does not follow in more educated minds, and is simply false. You have been shown many times that spacetime can be curved, warped, twisted, and lensed, and the fact that gravity is spacetime geometry. If spacetime cannot be curved, then we have no gravity.

 

[quantum_wave]

Which has nothing to do with spacetime .

To your last statement ;

Define what these " spots " are .

https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/gallery/43933_26_07_17_4_28_57.jpeg

In reply #50 I posted a depiction of the formation of a high density spot. Should I do a repeat of the content leading up to that post, since a great deal of time has passed, and memories do fade ...

 

[paddoboy]

That may follow in your mind, but it does not follow in more educated minds, and is simply false. You have been shown many times that spacetime can be curved, warped, twisted, and lensed, and the fact that gravity is spacetime geometry. If spacetime cannot be curved, then we have no gravity.

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/vacuu...asurements that have,9 joules per cubic meter

 

[quantum_wave]

Paddoboy, did I jump in on a conversation you had going? This is a thread about my model and it is in the Alternative Theories sub forum. What are you trying to do here?

 

[river]

river said: ↑
Which has nothing to do with spacetime .

To your last statement ;

Define what these " spots " are .

https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/gallery/43933_26_07_17_4_28_57.jpeg

In reply #50 I posted a depiction of the formation of a high density spot. Should I do a repeat of the content leading up to that post, since a great deal of time has passed, and memories do fade ...

I went to your #50 post . Interesting . I will read further .

Is this " spongy " move like a fluid ?

 

[paddoboy]

Paddoboy, did I jump in on a conversation you had going? This is a thread about my model and it is in the Alternative Theories sub forum. What are you trying to do here?

Simply refuting the nonsense by river that spacetime does not warp, curve, twist, bend.
Effectively saying that gravity does not exist.

 

[river]

Quantum_wave , continue

 

[quantum_wave]

Simply refuting the nonsense by river that spacetime does not warp, curve, twist, bend.
Effectively saying that gravity does not exist.

Yes, well start a thread and they will come,

 

[quantum_wave]

I went to your #50 post . Interesting . I will read further .

Is this " spongy " move like a fluid ?

The motion of objects occurs because all objects emit and absorb gravitational wave energy all the time, and so any point in space will have a unique wave energy density profile surrounding it. Since any object in question both emits and absorbs wave energy, and moves in the direction of the highest source of inflowing gravitational wave energy, space can be referred to as a medium that is filled with gravitational wave energy, not a fluid medium in the strictest sense.