Isn't it funny...

[Trippy]

I think only by one another...
Cannibalism is common to societal collapse...Africa is prone to periodic long-term drought...
People have historically eaten each other for various reasons.

A cow does not have reason...but it has the same primal drive as a human to survive, and can feel the same emotions that we feel, albeit in a more basic format. We can look at their brain and tell that they can emote to some degree.

Severely brain damaged or retarded people may have only that basic desire to survive left.
Sadly, maybe not even that.
We take care of them, of course.

Since the vegetarian thread has started...I try to visualize all the steps and people my food had to have happen to it before it reached me... and mentally thank those people. It's an attempt at more conscious eating.

When you eat the meal, do you ever thank the chicken or the cow for giving up its' life? The meat processors for doing a very dangerous and nasty job? The people who shipped it, stuck it in the supermarket cooler?
Thoughts...

This may interest you.
http://michaelpollan.com/books/the-omnivores-dilemma/
One hour youtube clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFpjskn3_Pc

Disclaimer - I haven't actually checked either of these out.

 

[Gustav]

Says the little man who only ever posts shit like this to stir up trouble.

stop lying
you come to me, troll
that is my reality
you take offense at the most innocuous of posts and react with punitive measure
yet, your trolls are beyond reproach and untouchable

you abuse your position as an admin
you troll me




yup
you read that right sci
a one week ban along with the accusation of trolling for disputing a ban in sfog

this is how james ensures that i experience in sci as the most hostile of environments. he trolls me incessantly.

his last effort, was a one week ban that was completed, another one week ban lifted after two days, all infractions reversed.

yet, i am the troll

in the past two years i had received 30 infractions.
11 of them have been reversed

it is plain and simple persecution
it seems as if all my time is taken up fighting this bogus shit
i will not give up

i believe in honesty and justice unlike james

 

[Gustav]

So, when you are inevitably asked about your vegetarianism, any hint that you don't want to eat meat because you don't want an animal to have to die for your palate will likely get you either condescendingly ridiculed as a tree-hugging hippie or viciously attacked as an arrogant, conceited holier-than-thou freak.

sanction james's trollish bait!!
do it!!!

 

[leopold]

The staff is aware of what happens if they enforce rules against any of James' posts.

What happens?

cricket, cricket, cricket.
helloooooooo . . . .

 

[Tiassa]

The long hand

cricket, cricket, cricket.
helloooooooo . . . .

There is a long hand at play. Let us simply say that the outcome is not a healthy one for the state of the community.

 

[leopold]

There is a long hand at play. Let us simply say that the outcome is not a healthy one for the state of the community.

yes, please spare us one of your long winded triple indexed, cross referenced replies.

i believe james gets humped on too. to imply he is totally immune is not true.

 

[quadraphonics]

i believe james gets humped on too. to imply he is totally immune is not true.

He was clearly referring to moderator actions, not complaints from the general membership. The mismatch between the two, presumably having a lot to do with the "long hand."

 

[James R]

This thread has drifted off-topic such that it is now a continuation of the discussion in the following thread:

[thread=109589]Vegetarian's guide to talking to carnivores[/thread]

Since that thread is now closed, it seems appropriate to close this one too.