Is US controlled by Rothschild family?

candy said:
There are some US history theories that propose that the US got into WWI because the big banks were holding a lot of Allied debt.
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That might have been one factor, but the effects of German submarine warfare and the catastrophic (for Germany) Zimmerman telegram seem to have done a lot of the heavy lifting.
 
exchemist said:
That might have been one factor, but the effects of German submarine warfare and the catastrophic (for Germany) Zimmerman telegram seem to have done a lot of the heavy lifting.
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agreed

but where did the monies come from to pay for the development of the submarines .
 
river said:
but where did the monies come from to pay for the development of the submarines .
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The technological development of the submarine is not particularly relevant. German submarine warfare was effective because of the way they were used.
 
exchemist said:
That might have been one factor, but the effects of German submarine warfare and the catastrophic (for Germany) Zimmerman telegram seem to have done a lot of the heavy lifting.
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There has always been speculation about the validity of the Zimmerman memo. The use of unrestricted submarine warfare should have been seen as a warning of worse things to come. Neutrality meant nothing to the kaiser.
 
RainbowSingularity said:
im mostly vegetarian
so if i was going to eat a sausage i would only choose something high end
mostly beef or lamb or deer
or chicken or turkey
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How many vegetarians does it take to make a sausage? Actually, you can make a lot of sausages out of one vegetarian.
 
Saint said:
Bitcoin will control world economy
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No. Being tied to insane 'mining' via poorly scaling energy hungry blockchain tech will doom it sooner or later. Ask Elon Musk. Hedera Hashgraph is one way forward that solves those issues nicely:
https://hedera.com/
A better way again especially given it's promise to free everyone from any kind of 'governance oversight' is via MaidSafe/SAFE Network:
Best viewed in that order. A work in progress that promises so much more than merely a better crypto offering.
 
when BTC community go for the direction to use BTC in daily purchasing, it will become god of money.
 
Saint said:
when BTC community go for the direction to use BTC in daily purchasing, it will become god of money.
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Are you an AI bot? No don't answer. Better to have an element of enduring mystery here at SF. Spices things up!:cool:
 
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candy said:
There has always been speculation about the validity of the Zimmerman memo. The use of unrestricted submarine warfare should have been seen as a warning of worse things to come. Neutrality meant nothing to the kaiser.
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What speculation has there been about the Zimmerman telegram (it wasn't a memo)? I can't find references to any in a quick search. Have you got some sources I can read?
 
exchemist said:
What speculation has there been about the Zimmerman telegram (it wasn't a memo)? I can't find references to any in a quick search. Have you got some sources I can read?
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There has been speculation that the decoded telegram provided by British intelligence was contrived. Zimmerman said later that it was real but at the time (Jan 1917) German Americans refused to believe it was real.
 
candy said:
There has been speculation that the decoded telegram provided by British intelligence was contrived. Zimmerman said later that it was real but at the time (Jan 1917) German Americans refused to believe it was real.
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Well since Zimmerman confirmed its authenticity, that doesn't leave much to speculate about, does it?

If you mean that, at the time, there was speculation in some quarters about its authenticity, later put to rest by Zimmerman himself, then I would agree with that, certainly.
 
exchemist said:
Well since Zimmerman confirmed its authenticity, that doesn't leave much to speculate about, does it?

If you mean that, at the time, there was speculation in some quarters about its authenticity, later put to rest by Zimmerman himself, then I would agree with that, certainly.
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The suspicion was given political weight because at the time Americans of german ancestry were the second largest ethnic group in USA.
Efforts to get food aid to the people of Belgium made the violation of neutrality a better political option.
 
candy said:
The suspicion was given political weight because at the time Americans of german ancestry were the second largest ethnic group in USA.
Efforts to get food aid to the people of Belgium made the violation of neutrality a better political option.
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OK. But nobody today speculates about the authenticity of the Zimmerman telegram. We're agreed on that, are we?
 
river said: ↑
but where did the monies come from to pay for the development of the submarines .
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sideshowbob said:
The technological development of the submarine is not particularly relevant. German submarine warfare was effective because of the way they were used.
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Disagree

You have to be able to develop the technology , practicably , before you can consider them stratigically .
 
river said:
You have to be able to develop the technology , practicably , before you can consider them stratigically .
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But everybody had developed the technology. Arguably, the Germans did not have the most technologically advanced submarines. What made them significant was the way they were used.
 
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