Is the Universal expansion caused by ''heat''?

Expansion is not caused by dark matter. You must have misread the article or you went to a junk science site. Wiki is usually a pretty good source of information.
Thank you kind sir for your patience and answer. I know very little science but it is something of interest to me after watching a Brian Cox documentary. I think you must be correct that I have ventured to junk sites. I am glad I have found this science site as I have so many questions about the Universe and the replies are from kind sirs who know what they are talking about. Thank you .

Is there any possibilities you know of that could cause the Universal expansion? Do you have any of your own ideas of how the expansion is occurring?
 
My apologies if being polite offends you kind sir. It is in my nature to be polite and friendly to all. I do not know you sir or have encountered you before. I do not understand kind sir why you seem hostile to somebody new here on the merit of one question and only a few posts.

The ex-chemist kind sir, says:I don't think this is really resolved

Is the answer to the universal expansion not yet concluded?

No sir, being polite never offends me. And it does not matter what offends me and what not.

My conclusion about you, and for that matter about anything, is irreversible and 100% true. It's the matter of time.
 
https://www.newscientist.com/articl...ssing-matter-has-just-been-finally-found/amp/
You could start thinking less about dark matter . They just found some in the garbage in the space

The missing links between galaxies have finally been found. This is the first detection of the roughly half of the normal matter in our universe – protons, neutrons and electrons – unaccounted for by previous observations of stars, galaxies and other bright objects in space.

You have probably heard about the hunt for dark matter, a mysterious substance thought to permeate the universe, the effects of which we can see through its gravitational pull. But our models of the universe also say there should be about twice as much ordinary matter out there, compared with what we have observed so far.

Two separate teams found the missing matter – made of particles called baryons rather than dark matter – linking galaxies together through filaments of hot, diffuse gas.

“The missing baryon problem is solved,” says Hideki Tanimura at the Institute of Space Astrophysics in Orsay, France, leader of one of the groups. The other team was led by Anna de Graaff at the University of Edinburgh, UK.

Learn more: Missing matter – Where did half the universe go?
https://www.newscientist.com/articl...m=ILC&utm_source=NSNS&utm_campaign=inlinelink

Because the gas is so tenuous and not quite hot enough for X-ray telescopes to pick up, nobody had been able to see it before.

“There’s no sweet spot – no sweet instrument that we’ve invented yet that can directly observe this gas,” says Richard Ellis at University College London. “It’s been purely speculation until now.”

So the two groups had to find another way to definitively show that these threads of gas are really there.

Both teams took advantage of a phenomenon called the Sunyaev-Zel’dovich effect that occurs when light left over from the big bang passes through hot gas. As the light travels, some of it scatters off the electrons in the gas, leaving a dim patch in the cosmic microwave background – our snapshot of the remnants from the birth of the cosmos.

Stack ‘em up
In 2015, the Planck satellite created a map of this effect throughout the observable universe. Because the tendrils of gas between galaxies are so diffuse, the dim blotches they cause are far too slight to be seen directly on Planck’s map.

Both teams selected pairs of galaxies from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey that were expected to be connected by a strand of baryons. They stacked the Planck signals for the areas between the galaxies, making the individually faint strands detectable en masse.

Tanimura’s team stacked data on 260,000 pairs of galaxies, and de Graaff’s group used over a million pairs. Both teams found definitive evidence of gas filaments between the galaxies. Tanimura’s group found they were almost three times denser than the mean for normal matter in the universe, and de Graaf’s group found they were six times denser – confirmation that the gas in these areas is dense enough to form filaments.

“We expect some differences because we are looking at filaments at different distances,” says Tanimura. “If this factor is included, our findings are very consistent with the other group.”

Finally finding the extra baryons that have been predicted by decades of simulations validates some of our assumptions about the universe.

“Everybody sort of knows that it has to be there, but this is the first time that somebody – two different groups, no less – has come up with a definitive detection,” says Ralph Kraft at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Massachusetts.

“This goes a long way toward showing that many of our ideas of how galaxies form and how structures form over the history of the universe are pretty much correct,” he says.

Journal references: arXiv, 1709.05024 and 1709.10378v
Thank you kind sir for your post, it is however beyond my understanding and education level at the moment.
 
You have probably heard about the hunt for dark matter, a mysterious substance thought to permeate the universe, the effects of which we can see through its gravitational pull. But our models of the universe also say there should be about twice as much ordinary matter out there, compared with what we have observed so far.

Two separate teams found the missing matter – made of particles called baryons rather than dark matter – linking galaxies together through filaments of hot, diffuse gas.
That still means that of the matter in the universe, 5% is ordinary matter and about 27% is dark matter.
 
My apologies kind sir's for the ignorance. I have just looked up this dark matter on the Wiki you mentioned , it says on here that dark matter is hypothetical and not observed to exist?

''Dark matter is a hypothetical type of matter distinct from baryonic matter (ordinary matter such as protons and neutrons), neutrinos and dark energy. Dark matter has never been directly observed; however, its existence would explain a number of otherwise puzzling astronomical observations.''
 
My apologies kind sir's for the ignorance. I have just looked up this dark matter on the Wiki you mentioned , it says on here that dark matter is hypothetical and not observed to exist?

''Dark matter is a hypothetical type of matter distinct from baryonic matter (ordinary matter such as protons and neutrons), neutrinos and dark energy. Dark matter has never been directly observed; however, its existence would explain a number of otherwise puzzling astronomical observations.''

Hang on, that's a somewhat misleading statement. It has not been directly observed. But then nor have molecules. That does mean they have not been "observed to exist"? There is abundant observational evidence for the existence of molecules. But it is indirect.

There is evidence for the existence of dark matter, through the observed rotational behaviour of galaxies, which does not correspond with estimates of their mass based on the stars they are observed to contain. So there is gravitational evidence for it. The problem is to account for what it can be comprised of.
 
Hang on, that's a somewhat misleading statement. It has not been directly observed. But then nor have molecules. That does mean they have not been "observed to exist"? There is abundant observational evidence for the existence of molecules. But it is indirect.

There is evidence for the existence of dark matter, through the observed rotational behaviour of galaxies, which does not correspond with estimates of their mass based on the stars they are observed to contain. So there is gravitational evidence for it. The problem is to account for what it can be comprised of.
Thank you kind sir for you reply. I think I understand what you are saying, you can not directly observe the dark matter as in seeing it or detecting it, but you can see a consequence of actions that indirectly show the possible existence. Would that be what you are saying?
 
Please kind sir, what is ordinary matter and what is dark matter?
So are we done with the discussion the expansion of the universe?

If you want to discuss dark matter perhaps you should start another thread. Members may be confused when we change subjects mid discussion.
 
So are we done with the discussion the expansion of the universe?

If you want to discuss dark matter perhaps you should start another thread. Members may be confused when we change subjects mid discussion.
My apologies kind sir, I thought dark matter was the cause of universal expansion from the trash site I viewed earlier.

I still have questions on the expansion please kind sir.

What other known forces is there that can expand things apart like heat does to a gas?
 
My apologies kind sir, I thought dark matter was the cause of universal expansion from the trash site I viewed earlier.
Well, now you know that dark matter is not the cause of the expansion of the universe so we can go back to the expansion.
I still have questions on the expansion please kind sir.
OK
What other known forces is there that can expand things apart like heat does to a gas?
Particle with like charges will repel each other.

Keep in mind we are talking about the expansion of the universe and not the expansion of a gas. In other words we are talking about the expansion of space - not matter.
 
Keep in mind we are talking about the expansion of the universe and not the expansion of a gas. In other words we are talking about the expansion of space - not matter.
Thank you kind sir for your answers. I thought as mentioned in post 9, we were talking about a metric expansion, a change in measurement between bodies.? I am not sure if I am misunderstanding you here but you sound like you are saying that the space itself is expanding as liking to an elastic band.
 
Thank you kind sir for your answers. I thought as mentioned in post 9, we were talking about a metric expansion, a change in measurement between bodies.? I am not sure if I am misunderstanding you here but you sound like you are saying that the space itself is expanding
Yes, exactly.
If you look at a galaxy that is 5 billion light years away from our galaxy you will see that distance between our 2 galaxies is getting larger. The galaxies are not moving through space away from each other the space between them is expanding.
 
Yes, exactly.
If you look at a galaxy that is 5 billion light years away from our galaxy you will see that distance between our 2 galaxies is getting larger. The galaxies are not moving through space away from each other the space between them is expanding.
Thank you kind sir, earlier on in the thread it was said that space could not expand by heat because space was not like molecules. Could you please kind sir quote from any link where it says that the space is expanding? Could you also please explain kind sir, the physical properties of the expanding space?
 
Thank you kind sir for you reply. I think I understand what you are saying, you can not directly observe the dark matter as in seeing it or detecting it, but you can see a consequence of actions that indirectly show the possible existence. Would that be what you are saying?
Yes exactly. This indirect observation of the effects of something we hypothesise is quite common in science. I suppose we would gain further confidence in the dark matter hypothesis if we were able to get either another class of independent observation of it, or a theoretical basis for it. At present we don't have these things. But that's how science advances.
 
Thank you kind sir, earlier on in the thread it was said that space could not expand by heat because space was not like molecules. Could you please kind sir quote from any link where it says that the space is expanding? Could you also please explain kind sir, the physical properties of the expanding space?
I've already given you two of these links, in posts 9 and 13. Why do you need more?
 
Yes exactly. This indirect observation of the effects of something we hypothesise is quite common in science. I suppose we would gain further confidence in the dark matter hypothesis if we were able to get either another class of independent observation of it, or a theoretical basis for it. At present we don't have these things. But that's how science advances.
Thank you for your clarification kind sir.
 
Thank you kind sir, earlier on in the thread it was said that space could not expand by heat because space was not like molecules.
I will agree I said something like that.
Could you please kind sir quote from any link where it says that the space is expanding?
Sure.
According to cosmologist Joel R. Primack
It is the expansion of space, between the time when the stars in these distant galaxies emitted light and our telescopes receive it, that causes the wavelength of the light to lengthen (redshift). Space is itself infinitely elastic; it is not expanding into anything."
This is from an article in Scientific American

Could you also please explain kind sir, the physical properties of the expanding space?
Like what? It is space.
 
I will agree I said something like that.

Sure.
According to cosmologist Joel R. Primack
It is the expansion of space, between the time when the stars in these distant galaxies emitted light and our telescopes receive it, that causes the wavelength of the light to lengthen (redshift). Space is itself infinitely elastic; it is not expanding into anything."
This is from an article in Scientific American


Like what? It is space.
Thank you kind sir for your reply. You say:Like what? It is space, but in the quote you provided it says:Space is itself infinitely elastic.

You seem to be suggesting that space itself is made of nothing , it just being space. Where the provider of the statement Joel R. Primack seems to be suggesting space has elastically properties which is suggestive of some form of material. Accordingly also does not mean the statement is true, accordingly means it is Joel R. Primack's belief unless there is evidence of the claim of space itself is infinitely elastic?

Like yourself kind sir, I to do not think or know that space is made of something.

Please kind sir , referring back to an earlier post by yourself, you say :Particle with like charges will repel each other.

Could you please explain what you mean by this please kind sir?




 
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