Is the Bible the WORD of God or the WORD of Satan?

Saint said:
Modern Jews not even believe what their ancestors wrote.
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The Jews admit that they are not the descendants of the Ancient Israelites in their writings. Under the heading of "A brief History of the Terms for Jew" in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following:


"Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew."
(1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3).

The above is from : http://www.iamthewitness.com/doc/Ashkenazis.are.not.the.descendants.of.the.Ancient.Israelites.htm

More interesting reading there.
 
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wegs said:
Well, depending on how you view it...the Bible has been controlling a number of people for centuries.
Me thinks the clergy of the early church, who ''wrote'' the Bible, were dumb...
Like foxes. ;)
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I agree to a point. At the least, Josephus was quite bright when he invented Jesus.

Those control methods were around before those players though.

Socrates lived what, 469 BC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJgvws0ZYUE

Overall, I would say that we are no brighter today than we were back then in psychological terms.
Sure, science has improved systems but they are still old systems that were invented long ago.

Regards
DL
 
Greatest I am said:
No problem but I am looking for your moral view of it.

Does their history show a moral God or not in your view?

Regards
DL
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"moral God"?..."chosen people"!..."self-fulfilling prophesy"!..."invented Jesus"!..."moral God"?

Mr.GIA, would you find any "moral" view or "moral or not, God" view, that deviated, in any way from your own, "ambiguous" or at the very least, "skewed" views, acceptable?
 
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Greatest I am said:
We crucify people. News to me.
So is the fact that you indicate of the justice system sacrificing itself.
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You're deliberately evading the issue, aren't you?

A soldier or a police officer or a bus driver can sacrifice his own life for others. That is not "human sacrifice".

If Jesus sacrificed himself to save us - to get us probabtion, parole or pardon - that is not "human sacrifice" either.

Christians do not "believe in human sacrifice".
 
Greatest I am said:
I cannot opine on something I do not see.

Regards
DL
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aha...therein lies the rub...
Mr.GIA, would you, or could you allow yourself to truly "see" any or all "moral" views or "moral or not, God" views, that deviated, in any way from your own, "ambiguous" or at the very least, "skewed" views?
I only ask because of previous "sight" problems that you "seem" to have "experienced"...
so...therein lies the rub...

on a completely unrelated digression - brought on by the notion of "sight problems" -
what are your 'views" on whether or not the fellow in this photograph should, could or would have "sight problems"?

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sideshowbob said:
You're deliberately evading the issue, aren't you?

A soldier or a police officer or a bus driver can sacrifice his own life for others. That is not "human sacrifice".

If Jesus sacrificed himself to save us - to get us probabtion, parole or pardon - that is not "human sacrifice" either.

Christians do not "believe in human sacrifice".
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Yet they are all lined up to profit from one showing that you have no clue as to what you are talking about.

As to your general theme of humans dying for each other, yes, that is quite noble.

Note that the soldier' C O did not throw the grenade and then order the soldier to throw himself on it the way God did with Jesus.

That truer scenario shows the God you are promoting to be an insane God.

Regards
DL
 
Greatest I am said:
Note that the soldier' C O did not throw the grenade and then order the soldier to throw himself on it the way God did with Jesus.
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God didn't order Jesus to sacrifice himself. Jesus volunteered.

The "truer scenario" is that the CO gave an order and the soldier sarificed himself to prevent some collateral damage. That is not "human sacrifice".
 
Greatest I am said:
Do you agree then that genocide against mankind is good justice and that having your child needlessly murdered is also good justice?
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Jesus wasn't murdered; he was executed - more words that you don't understand.

You can't dictate somebody else's morality according to your own standards. I can't say it's "immoral" for you to spend your time blathering on the Internet instead of helping the needy.

If you understood morality better, you wouldn't say such silly things about it.
 
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God didn't order Jesus to sacrifice himself. Jesus volunteered.

The "truer scenario" is that the CO gave an order and the soldier sarificed himself to prevent some collateral damage. That is not "human sacrifice".
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Ok. There was no sacrifice. I agree. Now Christians do not get salvation.

Done here.

Regards
DL
 
Greatest I am said:
Ok. There was no sacrifice. I agree. Now Christians do not get salvation.
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There was a sacrifice. The soldier (Jesus) sacrificed his own life. The civilians (Christians) were saved.

There was no "human sacrifice". Why is it so hard for you to admit that?
 
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