READ the post I was talking to Clueluss, his moaning about the rules should be changed.
To you MR...Lots of sites.
Just Google 'ghost ufo paranormal forums' to find one you like.
Is it me or is this site in its death throes?
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To you MR...Lots of sites.
Just Google 'ghost ufo paranormal forums' to find one you like.
Magical Realist
Valued Senior Member
I like this site. See my post count? How's your's doin?
Wit a rule change the gost ufo forum woudnt get undue attenton an threds like this woudnt occur ever 3-6 mounths.!!!
Does it bother you that other sites freely discuss ufos an gosts... an if not... why woud it bother you if ufos an gosts was freely discussed in the gost ufo forum here at Sciforums.???
Magical Realist
Valued Senior Member
Got it now. Tks
But, why it's here on sciforums it will get this kind of questioning attention . That's why I don't understand after all this time why you haven't noticed this.
Well, stop bitching when people ask you for answers in posts.
Magical Realist
Valued Senior Member
They should probably take up the existence of a discussion forum specifically set up here for ghosts and ufos with the mgt. It's not the fault of any members who post in that forum.
As said in my post above, haven't you notice none of MR threads get far without a bun fight. You both must like that situation.
Magical Realist
Valued Senior Member
Where did I bitch about people asking for answers in posts?
Magical Realist
Valued Senior Member
Yeah baby. I just LOVE being infracted and flamed and mocked and bitched at by 8 people at once just for posting my opinions online. It's what I live for!
You start bitching when you can't answer...so you bitch to deflect the question. I have no need to give you an example, people here know what I mean.
I will let you and clueluss have the last word, as you know, that's the kinda guy I am.
Lots of sites.
Just Google 'ghost ufo paranormal forums' to find one you like.
http://www.ghostvillage.com/ghostcommunity/index.php?act=idx
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/forum/10-ghosts-hauntings-amp-the-paranormal/
Magical Realist
Valued Senior Member
Sounds like an unsupported claim to me. If you weren't one of Bells' pet trolls and were me instead, she'd moderate you for that.
Actually Bells is claiming I had to find and post studies showing eyewitness accounts are reliable, which is abit like finding studies showing walking is reliable. They're not out there because nobody needs to prove what is already well known. So me not posting these studies is why Bells is going to moderate me any minute now when she wakes up. Which is just the usual bullshit mods do to shut me up when they lose a debate. Don't worry. I'm used to it.
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The most buns are thrown when mods get involved then the flys smell Sht an start to swarm.!!!
A simple rule change for the gost ufo forum woud eliminate that an then anybody that wanted to coud freely discuss gosts an ufos wit-out threats of ponts flags an bans.!!!
Does it bother you that people discuss gosts an ufos at other forums... i mean... do you go ther an Bich at 'em... if not... why woud you have a need to go the gost ufo forum here at Sciforums an Bich at them for freely discussin gosts an ufos.???
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Bells
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Mod Note
Magical Realist has been banned from this thread.
Reason: Continued flaming and trolling, refusal to support any of his factual claims with even one study. MR was advised that he would have 24 hours to provide evidence for his claims regarding eyewitness testimony. MR ended up getting around 30 hours, in the hope that he would be able to support his arguments. He has failed to do so. Instead, he chose to flame and troll this thread for a couple of pages in response.
I have noticed that certain individuals have suggested that the rules be changed or altered, to allow MR to post what he wants in the Fringe sub-section. The expectation that the rules be altered to suit one person out of the many who post here is inherently unfair to everyone else who posts here. I would also point out that this thread is not in the Fringe sub-section. Ergo, even if by some remote chance MR was given an absolute pass to ignore the rules that apply to every single one of us, and that we agreed to when we first signed on to this website, it would not apply here, since this is not the Fringe sub-section.
MR has also been given an infraction with 0 points, because instead of banning him from the forum entirely, I chose to ban him from this thread. I will review that thread ban in a few days, and if MR starts posting in good faith on this website, I will lift the thread ban for this thread.
My advice to MR is to not make claims that you cannot support at all and to simply not flame and troll threads. I have also advised MR that if he wishes to appeal the thread ban, he can PM an administrator with his complaint. I would also like to advise MR and everyone else, flaming and trolling will not get your point across. Instead, it will just result in being moderated.
Magical Realist has been banned from this thread.
Reason: Continued flaming and trolling, refusal to support any of his factual claims with even one study. MR was advised that he would have 24 hours to provide evidence for his claims regarding eyewitness testimony. MR ended up getting around 30 hours, in the hope that he would be able to support his arguments. He has failed to do so. Instead, he chose to flame and troll this thread for a couple of pages in response.
I have noticed that certain individuals have suggested that the rules be changed or altered, to allow MR to post what he wants in the Fringe sub-section. The expectation that the rules be altered to suit one person out of the many who post here is inherently unfair to everyone else who posts here. I would also point out that this thread is not in the Fringe sub-section. Ergo, even if by some remote chance MR was given an absolute pass to ignore the rules that apply to every single one of us, and that we agreed to when we first signed on to this website, it would not apply here, since this is not the Fringe sub-section.
MR has also been given an infraction with 0 points, because instead of banning him from the forum entirely, I chose to ban him from this thread. I will review that thread ban in a few days, and if MR starts posting in good faith on this website, I will lift the thread ban for this thread.
My advice to MR is to not make claims that you cannot support at all and to simply not flame and troll threads. I have also advised MR that if he wishes to appeal the thread ban, he can PM an administrator with his complaint. I would also like to advise MR and everyone else, flaming and trolling will not get your point across. Instead, it will just result in being moderated.
Is it a serious contention by MR? I too raised this issue especially involving Kittamaru.
IMO an involved mod should recuse, he/she can get some other mod on board for administrative task.
Your contention, then, is that we moderators should not partake in discussions, especially in our particular assigned sub-forums, out of the possibility we may need to moderate said discussion...
You are aware we are unpaid and are here out of a love for the forum, correct?
As it stands, there are 6 "active" moderators and 1 administrator... Bells, Tiassa, RPenner, Fraggle Rocker, Trippy, and myself, with James R as Admin.
If we were not allowed to partake in discussion... what reason would we have for returning here at all?
I thought over it, I know the type of thankless workload you guys have. I also can understand the kind of burn out it gave to Rpenner, but my point is very simple despite all this, despite fairness, an involved mod should not infract. You use the back office to involve another mod for infraction, this will not give an opportunity to your opponent (in the argument) and the violater to question the fairness of infraction decision on this score.
And in cases where another mod is not online (sometimes others are not available for hours to days on end)... should the bad behavior simply be allowed to continue unabated and utterly derail the thread in question?
And if there is a question of fairness - that is why we state that the option always exists to PM the Administration.
Well on line will not be a problem. Jimmy guy (James R) pays visit almost on weekly basis, so if things are lying low or turbulent for few days, sky will not fall. Involved mod can keep warning that defaulting member is crossing the line, but action must come from other mod only.
DaveC426913
Valued Senior Member
This has been proposed on pretty much every science forum I frequent. In fact, have proposed it myself.
And in an ideal world, it would surely be so.
But in a real world it is simply not feasible. Kitt covers it in post 416. Same thing I have heard on every other forum.
Again, it would be great of all discussions about an infraction could be public, so that the violator could challenge any (or every) point as it comes up, but again it simply cannot be.
There must be some element of deferral (trust) that the mods are making the best decision available to them. They cannot do it in a glass fish bowl. Can you just imagine how much additional time would be taken up to address every challenge of a violator? It's already time-consuming enough to debate an infraction, nevermind dragging it out like a court of appeals. No, there must be a degree of 'moderator's decisions are final' on any forum that will ever succeed.