Inertia and Relativity

[NotEinstein]

In your link, I observe many sub-links are there. Be specific, which link I should follow. In one link I observe it uses classical electron radius, which is not actual electron radius. In another link I observed comments against SM. So be spefic about which link to follow.

Why are you trying to follow any link from there? I was just reminding you what we were talking about, so you can post those calculations you made that lead to your conclusion in post #110. Remember: you are the one making the claims here, so it's you who has to provide the evidence (calculation in this case).

 

[hansda]

Why are you trying to follow any link from there? I was just reminding you what we were talking about, so you can post those calculations you made that lead to your conclusion in post #110. Remember: you are the one making the claims here, so it's you who has to provide the evidence (calculation in this case).

Well, follow this link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_magnetic_moment . You can get value of $$L $$ from this link.

As per my equations $$E=mc^2=hf=Iw^2k_2=Lwk_2 $$. Consider $$ L=Iw=mr^2kw$$ or $$ rw=\frac{L}{mrk}$$. Considering values of m and r for electron, you can check the value for $$rw $$.

 

[NotEinstein]

Well, follow this link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_magnetic_moment . You can get value of $$L $$ from this link.

As per my equations $$E=mc^2=hf=Iw^2k_2=Lwk_2 $$. Consider $$ L=Iw=mr^2kw$$ or $$ rw=\frac{L}{mrk}$$. Considering values of m and r for electron, you can check the value for $$rw $$.

And when you do that, what value do you get for the velocity with which the electron rotates?

 

[hansda]

And when you do that, what value do you get for the velocity with which the electron rotates?

I have given you my equation. You can do the calculation.

 

[NotEinstein]

I have given you my equation. You can do the calculation.

No, I shall not. You are the one making the claim; you have the burden of proof. Or are you now admitting you didn't actually do this calculation, and your statement in post #110 was unfounded?

 

[hansda]

No, I shall not. You are the one making the claim; you have the burden of proof. Or are you now admitting you didn't actually do this calculation, and your statement in post #110 was unfounded?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_magnetic_moment ; From this site consider "Spin magnetic dipole moment" section. We can consider $$L=S=\frac{\hbar}{2} $$.

From my equations I have observed $$mr $$ is constant and $$mr=\frac{4\hbar}{c} $$.

Considering our earlier equation for $$rw $$, we can write $$rw=\frac{L}{mrk}=\frac{\hbar}{2}\frac{c}{4\hbar}\frac{1}{k}=\frac{c}{8k} $$.

So tangential speed of spinning electron $$v_t=rw=\frac{c}{8k} $$. From this we can see that $$v_t<c $$

 

[NotEinstein]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_magnetic_moment ; From this site consider "Spin magnetic dipole moment" section. We can consider $$L=S=\frac{\hbar}{2} $$.

From my equations I have observed $$mr $$ is constant and $$mr=\frac{4\hbar}{c} $$.

Considering our earlier equation for $$rw $$, we can write $$rw=\frac{L}{mrk}=\frac{\hbar}{2}\frac{c}{4\hbar}\frac{1}{k}=\frac{c}{8k} $$.

So tangential speed of spinning electron $$v_t=rw=\frac{c}{8k} $$. From this we can see that $$v_t<c $$

Unless $$k\leq\frac{1}{8}$$; what was $$k$$ again?

 

[hansda]

Unless $$k\leq\frac{1}{8}$$; what was $$k$$ again?

$$I=mr^2k $$

 

[NotEinstein]

$$I=mr^2k $$

And what is its value (for an electron)?

 

[hansda]

For constancy of $$mr $$ or $$mr=\frac{4\hbar}{c} $$; this paper can be seen https://www.academia.edu/35753977/Proton_to_Electron_Mass_Ratio_Equation

 

[NotEinstein]

For constancy of $$mr $$ or $$mr=\frac{4\hbar}{c} $$; this paper can be seen https://www.academia.edu/35753977/Proton_to_Electron_Mass_Ratio_Equation

Please explain why the effective torque arm radius of an electron is equal to its physical radius.

 

[hansda]

And what is its value (for an electron)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_moments_of_inertia . From this list of moment of inertia, we can say $$k>\frac{1}{8} $$.

 

[NotEinstein]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_moments_of_inertia . From this list of moment of inertia, we can say $$k>\frac{1}{8} $$.

(Next time, could you please provide a better link, or more direction where exactly to find what you are referring to?)

What value did you use for radius? Remember, the electron's radius has been measured to have an upper bound of $$10^-7$$ fm!

 

[hansda]

Please explain why the effective torque arm radius of an electron is equal to its physical radius.

That is matching with the equations. $$m_pr_p=m_er_e $$ or $$\frac{m_p}{m_e}=\frac{r_e}{r_p}\simeq 1836 $$

 

[hansda]

What value did you use for radius?

Here actually I used the $$mr $$ value, which is constant. From my equations also this can be observed.

Remember, the electron's radius has been measured to have an upper bound of $$10^-7$$ fm!

There may be a measurement error.

 

[NotEinstein]

That is matching with the equations. $$m_pr_p=m_er_e $$ or $$\frac{m_p}{m_e}=\frac{r_e}{r_p}\simeq 1836 $$

That doesn't answer the question. Why is the effective torque arm radius of an electron is equal to its physical radius? Please proof this assertion that you are making.

 

[NotEinstein]

Here actually I used the $$mr $$ value, which is constant. From my equations also this can be observed.

Is $$mr$$ constant for all types of fundamental/non-composite particles?

There may be a measurement error.

Unfortunately for you, there is not.

 

[hansda]

That doesn't answer the question. Why is the effective torque arm radius of an electron is equal to its physical radius? Please proof this assertion that you are making.

That is the radius measured from spin axis.

 

[hansda]

Is $$mr$$ constant for all types of fundamental/non-composite particles?

From my equations, it is becoming so.

 

[NotEinstein]

That is the radius measured from spin axis.

And how does this relate to the proton being "a vortex in the yet to be defined super fluid aether"? Because that's what your source is about; see: http://phxmarker.blogspot.nl/2017/11/proton-radius-puzzle-solved.html