Inconsistent ban policy?

You're a mod hack! A disingeneous, stalker mod. You stalk the posts of so called ''cranks'' then you use your ''superior knowledge'' to basically shit on their faces.
I care about intellectual honesty and I point out dishonest or disingenuous (note the spelling) posts. If someone is misrepresenting the mainstream or saying demonstrably false things I'll point it out.

As for 'stalking' I know hacks like to think they intimidate or worry people and thus prompt lots of thoughts about them and replies but that really isn't the case. I see your name many times on the main page list and I don't even bother to look. Likewise with plenty of other hacks.

Sorry but you really aren't worth stalking. Explicitly physics related stuff then I'll take a look but because it's such a sure bet you'll have made a slew of mistakes but likely have presented yourself as knowledgeable.

You'd rather want 1 honest person speak to you, than 50 hacks listen to me? I'd rather have 50 hacks listen to me because they like me, than the 1 listen to me for my knowledge, because knowledge means shit and behaviour speaks a million words about who someone is and what they are like.
So you'd rather be popular than honest? Interesting. As for behaviour, your tone is speaking for itself. Or how about your threats to cause trouble when you got banned? What does that say? Or how you spend years supposedly learning physics but you aren't going anywhere and you don't demonstrate any advance in working understanding?

Like I said, do you plan to be doing this when you're 45? Or do you plan to one day actually be honest and rational about your understanding and start doing physics properly? I have asked you multiple times if you ever actually plan to go into physics. You said, in regards to plagiarism accusations, that such an accusation could hinder future career plans of yours, so that would imply you intend to do into physics in some way. Do you think your behaviour, like threatening to cause trouble, would not reflect badly on you, if any future employer did look at these forums? Do you think you claiming to know some quantum mechanics but can't multiply out (a+ib)(a-ib) properly would not reflect poorly on you?

Given your propensity to throw your toys out of the pram when everyone isn't paying you complements (a behaviour others have noticed in you) I hardly think you need to worry about what I say about you, your actions speak for themselves, as demonstrated by other people's less than rosy view of you. Unless you think we're all communicating via PM and emails, like you seem to think I do with people like Rpenner and QH, despite having no evidence because it isn't true?

You complain about 'biased mods' and me supposedly communicating with others to somehow conspire against you, as there's a conspiracy against you. No, the problem is not others conspiring against you, it is your own actions. You are your own worst enemy, I don't have to conspire with anyone for similar attitudes to be invoked in others, you manage to invoke them perfectly well yourself. Now if you want to play populist and make yourself feel better because people like wlminex like OOB (out of box) thinking and have a dislike of the scientific method then delude yourself away. Just as a creationist putting on a white coat and saying "Most people agree with me" doesn't mean evolutionary biologists should keep quite you being (and I use this in the vaguest sense of the word) 'popular' among the most scientifically illiterate here doesn't make me bat an eyelid. You could convince entire forums you're knowledgeable but in the end you're not any closer to actually doing science, being a scientist, and you know that. As you said, actions say a lot, and your actions haven't changed over 4 or 5 years. I guess you do want to be right where you are when you're 45. So be it, it's no skin off my nose, James's nose, Funk's nose or anyone else here who actually does something with themselves. :shrug:
 
I am very honest. In life my character builds my reputation and I have a wonderful reputation in real life. You think I honestly care about a forum, or what is said about me in it?

I have explained countless times, I don't care that you call me a hack, this or that. You don't know me, not really. All you know is this computer persona. You think you know me, but in actual fact you don't -- even with all the accusations they all add up to nothing, simply because I am a stranger to you. I could play, drink tea, act and perform rolly polly's in front of you and you still wouldn't know me from adam. You might even do a quick facebook search, but that still won't tell you all the relevent information about me. It has been my choice to come to this forum, for the last 4 years I have partaken in my joyful talks and discussions, and my life-plan is absolutely zero interest to you, so I don't know why you keep referring to it. Whether I come here and talk about physics in the next 6 years should be of no concern to you, and only mine.

As for being dishonest, I am far from that. I don't know why you say I am, what... because I come here and talk about physics, with confidence? The bannings I have had from this place make more sense than you, and even they've been dodgy!
 
Anyway, my point was my popularity is reflected by being a nice person. You are a sour, twisted little man who enjoys taking liberty out of those who may be a little less intellectually stimulated than yourself. You revel in your ability to ''shit'' on peoples faces as I said before, simply because you think that is your job. You sit their and criticize people for wasting their time, yet in the whole reflection it seems you do quite a fair bit of time wasting as well, spending it on cranks.
 
Uhm... no... popularity means nothing really, unless you are a politician or a high school class-president hopeful...
 
Well, I love my friends, they are what keeps me going half the time. So as for popularity ''doesn't mean anything'', is true for a half-beaten up sentance. ''Friends'' on the other hand which may be part of your popularity means a ****-load! And a friend to me is worth any knowledge that AN carries about with him like the holy bible.
 
Anyway, my point was my popularity is reflected by being a nice person. You are a sour, twisted little man who enjoys taking liberty out of those who may be a little less intellectually stimulated than yourself. You revel in your ability to ''shit'' on peoples faces as I said before, simply because you think that is your job. You sit their and criticize people for wasting their time, yet in the whole reflection it seems you do quite a fair bit of time wasting as well, spending it on cranks.

Mod Note


Since you are unable to not make a public spectacle of yourself by continuing with the exact sort of behaviour that had you booted from this site in the first place, it is becoming clear that your reason for wanting to return here was only to continue with the same negative behaviour. So cease and desist with your personal insults and this.. whatever the hell this is you have going on.

You have been warned about this kind of behaviour before. Even from myself. Consider this a public warning. If you persist in continuing with this sort of behaviour, the next one affect whether you can remain a member here or not.
 
Have you even followed the insults which trailed before my own? Picking and choosing what we should read and should not are we?
 
I reported your behaviour bells. You have no right to ban someone for being negative. That is the most ridiculous claim I have ever heard from this place. Moreover, if I was negative, I am sure this thread gives me 100 percent reason to think such. Thirdly, I wasn't even the one who started this debate off with insults! I've been called all-sorts in this thread and my place here challenged. I would say I have conducted myself reasonably well!
pfft
 
Wlmnex

I am pro-civlity. I have been asking for civility at this place since the dawn of time.
 
But I am afraid, i cannot be held to blame for AN's actions. He is constantly uncivil. Especially towards me.
 
I reported your behaviour bells. You have no right to ban someone for being negative. That is the most ridiculous claim I have ever heard from this place. Moreover, if I was negative, I am sure this thread gives me 100 percent reason to think such. Thirdly, I wasn't even the one who started this debate off with insults! I've been called all-sorts in this thread and my place here challenged. I would say I have conducted myself reasonably well!
pfft

I really do not think you are in any position to be reporting anyone at the moment Reiku. You forget, I and the other moderators, one of whom you just spent quite a bit of time insulting and virtually stalking across a few threads now, are well aware of the conditions of your return. If you wish to continue posting here, I would strongly advise you to adhere to those conditions.

This thread was a very valid query from the membership, asking how and why you could have been allowed back after your previous style of posting. You were allowed back as a second chance. Such chances do not grow on trees. At the very least, most who get such a chance to return tend to not make such huge spectacles of themselves as soon as they return. Quite the contrary. You have complained that you have been mistreated by certain moderators on this forum.

That has been your complaint.

So what do you do? You go out of your way to engage them in conflict, insult and goad them and then get pissy and abusive when they put you in your place.

I can assure you Reiku, you are in absolutely no position to report anyone at the moment. Especially after the comments you have made to a moderator of this site. Comments such as this which shows your level of immaturity which is one of the reasons which drives people to file complaints about you:

"Don't get on your moral high horse now AN. You're a mod hack! A disingeneous, stalker mod. You stalk the posts of so called ''cranks'' then you use your ''superior knowledge'' to basically shit on their faces. You'd rather want 1 honest person speak to you, than 50 hacks listen to me? I'd rather have 50 hacks listen to me because they like me, than the 1 listen to me for my knowledge, because knowledge means shit and behaviour speaks a million words about who someone is and what they are like."

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And this:

"Anyway, my point was my popularity is reflected by being a nice person. You are a sour, twisted little man who enjoys taking liberty out of those who may be a little less intellectually stimulated than yourself. You revel in your ability to ''shit'' on peoples faces as I said before, simply because you think that is your job. You sit their and criticize people for wasting their time, yet in the whole reflection it seems you do quite a fair bit of time wasting as well, spending it on cranks."

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So can the disingenuous bullshit, man up and adhere to the rules of your being allowed to return and post here. Not try and pull crap like this and then try and claim that you bear no responsibility.
 
I'd rather have 50 hacks listen to me because they like me, than the 1 listen to me for my knowledge, because knowledge means shit and behaviour speaks a million words about who someone is and what they are like.
knowledge means shit?
are you serious?
 
I really do not think you are in any position to be reporting anyone at the moment Reiku. You forget, I and the other moderators, one of whom you just spent quite a bit of time insulting and virtually stalking across a few threads now, are well aware of the conditions of your return. If you wish to continue posting here, I would strongly advise you to adhere to those conditions.

This thread was a very valid query from the membership, asking how and why you could have been allowed back after your previous style of posting. You were allowed back as a second chance. Such chances do not grow on trees. At the very least, most who get such a chance to return tend to not make such huge spectacles of themselves as soon as they return. Quite the contrary. You have complained that you have been mistreated by certain moderators on this forum.

That has been your complaint.

So what do you do? You go out of your way to engage them in conflict, insult and goad them and then get pissy and abusive when they put you in your place.

I can assure you Reiku, you are in absolutely no position to report anyone at the moment. Especially after the comments you have made to a moderator of this site. Comments such as this which shows your level of immaturity which is one of the reasons which drives people to file complaints about you:

"Don't get on your moral high horse now AN. You're a mod hack! A disingeneous, stalker mod. You stalk the posts of so called ''cranks'' then you use your ''superior knowledge'' to basically shit on their faces. You'd rather want 1 honest person speak to you, than 50 hacks listen to me? I'd rather have 50 hacks listen to me because they like me, than the 1 listen to me for my knowledge, because knowledge means shit and behaviour speaks a million words about who someone is and what they are like."

[Post 20]

And this:

"Anyway, my point was my popularity is reflected by being a nice person. You are a sour, twisted little man who enjoys taking liberty out of those who may be a little less intellectually stimulated than yourself. You revel in your ability to ''shit'' on peoples faces as I said before, simply because you think that is your job. You sit their and criticize people for wasting their time, yet in the whole reflection it seems you do quite a fair bit of time wasting as well, spending it on cranks."

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So can the disingenuous bullshit, man up and adhere to the rules of your being allowed to return and post here. Not try and pull crap like this and then try and claim that you bear no responsibility.

Yeah, what about the pissy attitudes that were already existent when I arrived here at this thread, are you seriously acting with this selective memory of yours, or is it for real?
 
This is what has me confused Bell. You have the audacity to come into a thread (targeted at me) by members with their own pissy attitude on moderation, then accuse me of being negative.

LOL

I actually couldn't believe what you said yesteday,hence why I reported your decision to warn me. I just couldn't get over my head what you wanted me to accept considering the conditions lol
 
(BELLS)

I also don't know how you can claim that I only came back for the ''arguements'' - My activities here at this place cover a wide range of topics were in none of them I give out or recieve any derogatory comments.
 
James, come on, he is your room mate or something? Your doctor? What is it? Why would you let him make sock puppets after being permbanned and be allow another account before a ban was complete? Multiple accounts not allowed? Trolling? Posting meaningless contenct? Flaming? Sock puppets? All are offences for which users have been permanently banned, but this guy does that all and he gets "Do do it again"?

Heh Heh.
Imagine having Reiku as your doctor.
You'd be dead within a week.

Reiku:
Ooh, sorry I've just given you three trillion times the lethal dose.
It was the Latex. I multiplied by the speed of light instead of dividing.
There could be universes where that would work, you know.
Never mind, I'll do some Brain surgery.

Patient:
Are you a qualified surgeon?

Reiku
Well, not qualified exactly, but I've watched Diagnosis Murder a few times.

Patient:
What? You want to operate on my brain, and your only experience is watching
Diagnosis Murder.?

Reiku
Dr Sloan solves every case.

Patient:
An how many of his patients survive?

Reiku
Well Duh, it's none. Di-ag-no-sis Mur-der.
You aren't any relation to Alpha are you?
In this case it's easy to solve.
I did it.
 
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I am very honest. In life my character builds my reputation and I have a wonderful reputation in real life. You think I honestly care about a forum, or what is said about me in it?

I have explained countless times, I don't care that you call me a hack, this or that. You don't know me, not really. All you know is this computer persona. You think you know me, but in actual fact you don't -- even with all the accusations they all add up to nothing, simply because I am a stranger to you. I could play, drink tea, act and perform rolly polly's in front of you and you still wouldn't know me from adam. You might even do a quick facebook search, but that still won't tell you all the relevent information about me.
It's funny that you say all that but you make insinuations about my persona. Practice what you preach.

and my life-plan is absolutely zero interest to you, so I don't know why you keep referring to it.
I'm responding to something you said which implied you believe/plan that at some point in the future you'll be applying for professions pertaining to physics, hence why having accusations of plagiarisms associated to your name would be bad.

As for being dishonest, I am far from that.
Whether you are or not in real life your online persona on these forums says otherwise.

I don't know why you say I am
Come on now, you can't really be that oblivious.

what... because I come here and talk about physics, with confidence?
In your case, yes. Before you misinterpret that, there's nothing wrong with people familiar with something talking confidently about it. I talk confidently about things I can demonstrate understanding of, likewise with others. For example, Trippy is a chemist and he talks confidently about chemistry, that sort of thing. However, if someone isn't familiar with a subject and talks as if they are, peppering their posts with errors they don't even realise they are making, and deliberately setting themselves up to somehow be a 'teacher' of sorts to people who don't understand the subject then yes, that is dishonest.

To use Captain Kremmen's approach, I would be dishonest if I watched an episode of House and then attempted to give people medical advice, even if their symptoms were like those in the episode I watched. Furthermore, no amount of watching medical dramas would prepare me for med school, just as reading pop science books doesn't prepare you for university.

Anyway, my point was my popularity is reflected by being a nice person.

You are a sour, twisted little man who enjoys taking liberty out of those who may be a little less intellectually stimulated than yourself.
Weren't you just saying how online interactions don't represent you? Yet you feel you can say such things about me? Nice hypocrisy.

You get it all wrong anyway. I have no problems with people who know less than me, be they 15 or be they 60, provided they are honest about it. I'm honest about what I do or don't know and to what level I know it. If someone else is likewise then even if they know no physics I won't have a problem with them. It's when people misrepresent themselves I have an issue, it's intellectual dishonesty. I keep explaining this (do a search for 'intellectual dishonesty' and you'll get loads of my posts explaining this) but it seems to be something some people struggle to grasp.

Let's take Magneto as an example. He can't do basic vector calculus yet he's written a textbook on it, a textbook he has to self publish. He has no published research or even an advanced degree, yet he believed he was in the running to get the head of department position at somewhere like CalTech. He named his self published work 'Super Principia Mathematica', after Newton's magnus opus 'Principia Mathematica', and then posted (or paid someone else to post) biased reviewed of it all over the place. That is the height of intellectual dishonesty. You're not that far gone, probably because you don't have the funds to self publish material, but you're getting there. You don't know the material you're writing a book on and when presented with your errors you ignore it or you get hostile. If you instead dealt with it by saying "Looks like I over estimated my understanding, I should spend some time learning this stuff. I'll make sure to ask someone when I come up against something I don't understand" and then you actually did that then you'd experience a much friendlier atmosphere here.

Really, is that too much to ask? All the PhDs I work with have attitudes like that. Probably 3~10 times a week (depending what we're all working on) I'll ask someone a question I preface with "This is probably a really stupid question but....". I'm not holding you or anyone else to a standard I wouldn't expect others to hold me to. I'm not talking about research level stuff here, I'm talking about plain simple honesty.

You revel in your ability to ''shit'' on peoples faces as I said before, simply because you think that is your job.
No, I think it's my 'job' to highlight misunderstandings and errors, explain why they are such and then to try to help the relevant poster understand things properly. For those who accept such help graciously there's no problem. For those who believe themselves above taking advice or undoubtedly infallible (Farsight thinks he knows more electromagnetism than Dirac did and Sylwester calls his work the 'everlasting theory' for example) then things go down hill because they keep making the same sorts of mistakes and don't want to listen.

In your case I've given you plenty of advice on how to go about learning things properly or explained why certain things might be outside your reach at present but you don't want to listen.

You sit their and criticize people for wasting their time, yet in the whole reflection it seems you do quite a fair bit of time wasting as well, spending it on cranks.
You, once again, fail to understand.

There are some hacks here who honestly think they've rewritten physics or that they should get themselves into the physics community. In your case you've given the impression on multiple occasions you plan to go into the physics academic community in some manner, ie at least a degree, at some point. Be it publishing their pet theories in a journal or getting a formal physics education there are certain hoops which must be jumped through. If someone is really serious then surely they wish to get the ball rolling yet in the years I've been here none of the hacks have really advanced their positions. For example, posting updates to their 'work' again and again on a forum isn't going to advance their position towards getting their work to the attention of the research community so one has to question how serious they really are. In your case you have been doing what you're doing for at least the entire time I've known you (4+ years?) and, as I've said, no amount of pop science reading going to help you do the details involved in a formal physics education. In the time you and I have 'known' one another you've gotten no closer to even a basic working understanding of physics. In 4 years you could properly cover the 1st year syllabus of a university physics degree in your spare time, yet you struggle to do stuff I'd expect A Level students who've gotten onto a decent physics degree course to know inside out. So you have squandered that time if you really do plan to do anything proper when it comes to physics. These essay threads of yours don't help in that regard either. If you really plan to go into physics than your time spent doing physics in some way is supposed to be advancing you along that road. You appear not to have moved along it at all.

As for my time the physics and maths I discuss here is purely recreational, it has absolutely no bearing on my career's advancement. The level of my discussions here hasn't advanced in any significant way while I've been a member here because the average level of discussion on this forum is below research level. However, the fact I've gotten papers published, a PhD and a research job in that time shows I've been spending plenty of time pushing my understanding of physics and maths.

What you post here shows the edges of your understanding haven't moved, so if you are trying to work towards a job pertaining to physics what on Earth are you doing with yourself? I doubt you'll say but I would be interested to know what you're doing with your life at the moment. What job you have, if you're employed. What are your plans for the next 10 years? If it involves physics how do you plan to go about accomplishing it?

And a friend to me is worth any knowledge that AN carries about with him like the holy bible.
Except we're not talking about popularity here, we're talking about whether or not you're misrepresenting your knowledge. You've basically said you'd rather be misleading and popular than honest. Whether that gives you a more fulfilling life is not relevant here, what is relevant is whether such behaviour is appropriate for this forum.

I would say I have conducted myself reasonably well!
What about the threats to cause problems for the forum, particularly Prom and myself in Physics and Maths, when you were banned? Is that conducting yourself 'reasonably well'? Is it a sign of a mature person to make such threats?

But I am afraid, i cannot be held to blame for AN's actions. He is constantly uncivil. Especially towards me.
As this post illustrates, I'll regularly give lengthy posts explaining myself. In your essay threads I'll go into lengthy detail about your multitude of problems, explaining your errors. Often your replies will be short and with a few choice words in them. You certainly swear a lot more than I do on these forums.

Like I said, if you were intellectually honest we'd not have this problem. You don't like being told you're mistaken about something. You don't like to be told that perhaps you're not in a position to grasp something yet. You don't like being told you need to do the boring groundwork before getting onto the 'cool' stuff. All of those comments about you are not insults, they are pieces of advice based on personal experience and I'm not the only one whose given you such advice. I tend to be the one to list your errors and it gets tiresome after a while so I comment about your dishonest and in some cases delusion. It is a delusion to think that reading pop science books puts you in a position to easily walk a 1st year of a physics degree. That is a fact. It might very well be a fact you don't want to hear because it applies to a point of view you've stated but facts are facts. Anyone who has done a physics degree will corroborate it and I speak as someone whose been on both sides of the fence, student and teacher (though I was a student in maths, but that included classical mechanics in my 1st year).

There's no shame in accepting corrections from people. It's how education works. But do you think it would be acceptable for a university student to say "I think it's totally unacceptable you failed me on that test, I am right!" after having many mistakes in their exam paper? Hardly. Eventually such a student would be considered disruptive, dishonest and would have to be told that, before eventually being expelled if the behaviour continued.

How a person deals with being told they're mistaken about something says a lot about them. One of the common traits between all the people I might be considered 'uncivil' towards is that they don't deal well with being told they're mistaken about something. Repeatedly reiterating those mistakes and denying they exist is dishonest and some might consider rude. After a while the civility of initial "You're mistaken about that because...." gives way to "How many times are you going to tell the same lie?".

''Imagination is more important than knowledge.''

That was Einstein who said that.
But imagination without knowledge is inapplicable, just as knowledge without imagination cannot grow.

That quote is often rolled out by hacks looking to give excuses for their complete lack of knowledge. What makes a good scientist is having both.

The place I work for recently went through a round of recruiting and we saw dozens of people with PhDs in maths or physics and yet very few of them had much imagination or interest outside the scope of their present research. However, the job requirement still required an advanced degree because without the knowledge base no amount of imagination could do the job.

(BELLS)

I also don't know how you can claim that I only came back for the ''arguements'' - My activities here at this place cover a wide range of topics were in none of them I give out or recieve any derogatory comments.
Perhaps posts like this were in Bells's mind? You'd just been unbanned and despite knowing you were to keep in line the first thing you did was attempt an insult at me by implying I view myself as some kind of Einstein. Deliberate attempt to antagonise. And likely to try to get attention.
 
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