By recognition. Others recognize what kind of experience we are talking about because they have had the same experience themselves.First, How do you you express qualia without words?
The words doesn't produce the qualia, it makes us remember and associate to it. Since we only remember and associate to it, it cannot fully define what the qualia is that we are talking about. Hence people can see a different color for red than you and you would never know it. You can only express the association to the qualia, not the actual qualia. The actual qualia is without words and can't be defined (at least not according to our current knowledge of it).
I've seen my fair share of clips and videos about GPT3, very fascinating, but not the same process that produces human intelligence. There are a lot of differences.Second , have you seen all the clips I provided of GPT3 abilities and artistry?
You divert from what the GPT actually does. It does not experience anything. It can create sounds and all kind of data based on what it has trained on, but it is no different from the way that it can produce a sentence based on what sentence came before it. It is the full cornerstone of what GPT3 is. It is all based on having a lot of weighs based on training on datasets which makes it able to "predict" based on those weighs what comes next.That Time Daniel Dennett Took 200 Micrograms of LSD (In Another Timeline)
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Axioms of Integrated Information Theory (IIT)
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The GPT3 does have experiential limitations and taste is one of them, but consider sound and ability produce a new symphony using the known techniques of harmonic chronologies and the emotional experiences of tension and release .
There was no verification at that time, that is what I was saying. We can of course verify it today and ever since consciousness has existed, so you kind of missed the point.I disagree. Of course existence can be verified to a great extent. We are looking at remnants of very early electro/chemical processes , from shortly after the inflationary epoch. Self referential processes and self-organization started very shortly after the the formation of earliest elements and their signature wavelengths.
These processes needed not be conscious in order to produce complexity from simplicity.
What do you mean by self-referential? Normally, as I understand it, self-referential systems examines it's own output to adjust for imperfections. Evolution doesn't work that way, it isn't referring to anything so I don't really know what you mean. Maybe you can elaborate on it?Consider CDT (causal dynamical triangulation), which proposes that spacetime itself unfolds via a fractal process.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causal_dynamical_triangulation#
IMO, consciousness is just another extreme evolutionary refinement of self-referential electro/chemical processing, just as an eagle's vision is an extreme evolutionary result of self-referential light sensitive patches in even the earliest life forms.
CDT was a interesting read, don't know how it relates to this, but thanks for sharing the link.
I don't see any advantage to having consciousness. Why couldn't a person without consciousness accomplish the very things that the person with consciousness accomplishes? That's why we often hear that it is a indirect result of the complexity of the brain, and emergent property, rather than something that evolution has produced from selection.There is nothing mysterious about any of this. It merely shows the power of stochastic natural selection for advantageous abilities, which applies not only to living organisms but to the entire physical world.
I also like maths very much, but it's hard to know in what way mathematics exists, if it even has a existence beyond our use of it.Consider that the Fibonacci sequence is the perfect algorithm for balanced vertical growth and surface distribution.
The sequence is pervasive throughout world of flora.
Boman Fibonacci Sequence .....more
https://www.fq.math.ca/Papers1/55-5/Boman.pdf
None of this required conscious planning or execution. Given enough time for trial and error, nature usually comes up with the mathematically most efficient organizational growth patterns. Self-organization!
This is why I am so enamored with a mathematically based Universe. Mathematics are a quasi intelligent dynamical processing function. Input --> Function --> Output. This does not need brain generated qualia, the Explicated results are already present in potential form in the Implicate Order (David Bohm)