How to make a sustained fusion reaction

[Beaconator]

Take all elements below iron and place them in an iron box.

world energy crisis averted

 

[DaveC426913]

Take all elements below iron and place them in an iron box.

world energy crisis averted

Asked and answered in another thread.
(Still no, BTW.)
Also, does not qualify for Alt Theory forum.

 

[Beaconator]

Asked and answered in another thread.
(Still no, BTW.)
Also, does not qualify for Alt Theory forum.

No it wasn’t answered. All that was answered is that the elements would probably react, but seeing as most are minerals I still have my doubts

 

[DaveC426913]

...I still have my doubts

This is not an Alt Theory. Post your thoughts in Free Thoughts - a more appropriate forum.

 

[Beaconator]

This is not an Alt Theory. Post your thoughts in Free Thoughts - a more appropriate forum.

It is an explanation of natural events that can be tested. Which fits the definition of a theory.
There is also no place for theories on this site either otherwise I would put it there.

so that’s my theory

 

[DaveC426913]

It is an explanation of natural events that can be tested. Which fits the definition of a theory.
There is also no place for theories on this site either otherwise I would put it there.

so that’s my theory

Look up the rules for the Alt Theory forum. It's not like other fora.
You have an obligation to describe your theory and show how it explains some aspect of observed nature, and defend it when challenged.
So far, you haven't even described a theory, let alone showed what it explains.

 

[Beaconator]

Your willing to stake a bet that it wouldn’t explain fusion to a better degree than we know it now. All elements from 0 to iron naturally undergo fusion. So this leads me to theorize we have gained information from the universe and not put it to proper use. A Hammond conjecture.

 

[DaveC426913]

Your willing to stake a bet that it wouldn’t explain fusion to a better degree than we know it now. All elements from 0 to iron naturally undergo fusion. So this leads me to theorize we have gained information from the universe and not put it to proper use. A Hammond conjecture.

None of the above follows from your OP.

Regardless, it is hard to trust that you are being serious about this, considering how similar it is with your recent posting history. I think that I will leave you to it. Maybe someone else will take this bait.

 

[Beaconator]

None of the above follows from your OP.

Regardless, it is hard to trust that you are being serious about this, considering how similar it is with your recent posting history. I think that I will leave you to it. Maybe someone else will take this bait.

How does none of the above not follow from the OP?

what am I missing that can change your epistemology? Should I have said above iron? Is that more clear? Below in numerology? Why do you reject these notions? It’s not scientific to reject what I have to say for no reason.

if you roll a wheel that is exactly pie over the periodic table of elements you will find it almost always hits the elements mass.

 

[DaveC426913]

Why do you reject these notions? It’s not scientific to reject what I have to say for no reason.

The reason is because what you are saying is not scientific. Why would the rejection need to be?

If you said: "What is the taste of the colour 9?" anyone would be free to reject it without resorting to a scientific analysis.

 

[Beaconator]

The reason is because what you are saying is not scientific. Why would the rejection need to be?

If you said: "What is the taste of the colour 9?" anyone would be free to reject it without resorting to a scientific analysis.

Because you can’t say why. You can’t say when. You can’t say who. You can’t say what… is not (scientific) you can’t say where is not…

Who. What. When. Where. And why? You have only failed yourself because I can answer all five.

albert Einstein declared a simple exploration is the best. He never had the information I have now (what and when) . Why? Because I care to find answers

 

[DaveC426913]

Because you can’t say why. You can’t say when. You can’t say who. You can’t say what… is not (scientific)

So ask a meaningful question.

Your OP doesn't even contain a question.

So it's simply a set of statements that, together, are non sequitur.

 

[Janus58]

All elements from 0 to iron naturally undergo fusion.

No, all elements up to Fe56 will produce a net gain of energy ( by a decreasing factor as you get closer to Iron.), but it still takes extreme conditions to initiate that fusion. You also have elements heavier than Iron that produce net energy through fission, but do not naturally undergo fission.

 

[sideshowbob]

Take all elements below iron and place them in an iron box.

world energy crisis averted

Funny how nobody ever thought of that before you.

 

[Beaconator]

Funny how nobody ever thought of that before you.

I’ll be absolutely laughing in my grave if things keep going this well. I’m 31

 

[Beaconator]

No, all elements up to Fe56 will produce a net gain of energy ( by a decreasing factor as you get closer to Iron.), but it still takes extreme conditions to initiate that fusion. You also have elements heavier than Iron that produce net energy through fission, but do not naturally undergo fission.

Individually yes

yet in a supernova everything except iron undergoes fission and fusion by my logical calculation.

iron is how we calculate the age of stars

 

[river]

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No, all elements up to Fe56 will produce a net gain of energy ( by a decreasing factor as you get closer to Iron.), but it still takes extreme conditions to initiate that fusion. You also have elements heavier than Iron that produce net energy through fission, but do not naturally undergo fission.

Individually yes

yet in a supernova everything except iron undergoes fission and fusion by my logical calculation.

iron is how we calculate the age of stars

Beaconator , keep going . Until proven otherwise . No reason to abandon your thinking . Continue .

river .

 

[Janus58]

Individually yes

yet in a supernova everything except iron undergoes fission and fusion by my logical calculation.

iron is how we calculate the age of stars

How is a supernova not "extreme conditions"? A supernova is caused by a large star building up an Iron core* until it gets large enough that it collapses under its own weight. The remaining layers of the Star fall into the void left converting Gravitational potential energy into kinetic. When all this material meets at the center, This energy initiates a fusion explosion with enough energy to fuse all kinds of element. In other words, you still need the extreme conditions caused by the collapsing star to trigger the fusion.

* Something that can only happen at the types of pressures and temperatures found in the cores of large stars. Our own Sun will never generate an Iron core. It isn't massive enough. The heaviest element it will produce is Carbon.

 

[Beaconator]

How is a supernova not "extreme conditions"? A supernova is caused by a large star building up an Iron core* until it gets large enough that it collapses under its own weight. The remaining layers of the Star fall into the void left converting Gravitational potential energy into kinetic. When all this material meets at the center, This energy initiates a fusion explosion with enough energy to fuse all kinds of element. In other words, you still need the extreme conditions caused by the collapsing star to trigger the fusion.

* Something that can only happen at the types of pressures and temperatures found in the cores of large stars. Our own Sun will never generate an Iron core. It isn't massive enough. The heaviest element it will produce is Carbon.

I find it hard to believe there is no iron in our sun….

I’m not aiming to make fission and fusion at the same time thus there is no need for extreme conditions. But you probably could by putting every element in an iron box, and that would be dangerous I’m sure you would agree.

 

[Beaconator]

Beaconator , keep going . Until proven otherwise . No reason to abandon your thinking . Continue .

river .

I’ve tried to disprove my ideas myself and done so enough to refine them into what they are here. Thank you for the strong words of encouragement