Back to Birther
Wellwisher said:
Are you aware that there is not even a memo with Adolf Hitlers name on it that connects him to the holocaust. According to your reasoning Hitler had nothing to do with the Holocaust. President Obama is a lawyer and knows where to stand to get away with things.
Thank you for making it all clear.
Blame Bush is something the liberals use all the time. Does that make President Bush the Puppet master of President Obama, where anything that Obama gets accursed cannot be due to him, because Bush, pulls all his strings? I thought President Obama had choice and could make his own decisions like transparency but the puppet master must have pulled the strings so he could not act?
We should not be surprised that you think this constitutes some sort of useful argument.
If you remember in the last election, strategists tried to make President Obama more like Reagan. The thing about Reagan I remember the most was his ability to work on both sides of the isle. Also if he did not get what he needed he would take his argument to the American people with a good presentation and this would motivate citizens to call their Congressmen and Senators and get them on board.
As a sentence-by-sentence response:
See thread title, and recall that voting for Democrats is my concession to conservatives. Reagan was a mean-spirited, insulting asshole, but still didn't face the kind of deliberate, reckless opposition the GOP has arrayed against Obama. Strange how Republicans seem to think taking the case to the American people is some sort of sin, now, and complain ridiculously of White House intimidation.
As
I noted:
Right-wing tinfoil conspiracy theories are effective for one thing, and that is clouding the important aspects of virtually any issue they address.
Politics and history
are not disconnected. That is to say, you cannot politically pin something purely on Obama if we must ignore recorded history in order to do so. These tinfoil conspiracy theories are bizarre because they are not only stupid and overly complex, but also paradoxically simplistic insofar as they have no grasp of how politics has worked through the course of American history. Right now, Tea Partiers and other hardline conservatives are so desperate to pin a scandal onto President Obama that they have farcically obscured real issues of genuinely legitimate concern.
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Gunwalking — Gunwalking is a stupid and dangerous practice. There are many issues to address about how American law enforcement deals with black markets. Can someone explain in rational terms why the most important aspect of the scandal is to blame a practice that originated in the prior administration solely on President Obama? There are real problems here that span administrations and party lines. But those, according to House Republicans and conservative voters, aren't important.
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Benghazi — Pop quiz: Who can tell me three things about the foreign service that need to be fixed in the wake of the Benghazi attack? Bonus question, essay: How does the Benghazi debacle fit into the recent history of attacks against our foreign service?
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Cincinnatti IRS — Among the most macabre political spectacles offered up by the American conservative guignol came when the IRS scandal broke. The first instinct was to use the scandal to point to Benghazi. As in, here, this real scandal is the reason you should be paying more attention to the fake scandal. And now, weeks into the investigations, we find that House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) actually
lied to the public in an effort to skip the real, substantive issues and make the whole thing about President Obama.
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NSA domestic espionage — Could somebody please remind me
why this is supposed to be surprising or somehow
new? Or might we please move on to something of substance? Trying to pin this on Obama as some shocking new thing that has never gone on before has no useful effect; it simply clouds the subtantive issues, which transcend administrations and parties.
And it goes on and on and on. Watergate is the new Nazi these days; when you hear a Republican invoke Watergate, invoke Godwin and move on.
I mean, we're
back to Birtherism:
After a long discussion in which [internet radio host Rick] Wiles wondered if immigration reform legislation would require Americans to be implanted with a biometric scanner and whether this nation was currently experiencing a coup d'etat, he asked Duncan if the House had any plans to "pursue Barack Obama's phony identification papers."
[Rep. Jeff] Duncan [(R-SC)] initially tied to laugh it off, saying that people should have voted against Obama during the last election but Wiles refused to let it go, saying "if we know they are lying about all these other things, why not go back and say 'well, maybe the first scandal was a lie too?'"
And with that point, Duncan wholeheartedly agreed, saying "there you go; I'm all with you, so let's go back and revisit some of these things because Americans have questions about not only the IRS scandal but also about the President's validity"
Although I admit it's not clear whether the IRS scandal Duncan refers to is the Cincinnatti office targeting right-wing political groups seeking tax-exempt status as apolitical (educational) charities, or his host's great fear that law enforcement agents take target practice, which apparently is something else new that has never happened before.
No, really.
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Notes:
Sargent, Greg. "Breaking: Full House committee transcripts shed new light on genesis of IRS targeting". The Plum Line. June 18, 2013. WashingtonPost.com. June 19, 2013. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...s-shed-new-light-on-genesis-of-irs-targeting/
Mantyla, Kyle. "Rep. Jeff Duncan Agrees Congress Should Investigate Obama's 'Phony Identification Papers' to Determine His 'Validity'". Right Wing Watch. June 17, 2013. RightWingWatch.org. June 19, 2103. http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conte...ate-obamas-phony-identification-papers-determ
