How DUMB can US voters be?
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How dumb do you need them to be to make a point?Billy T said:
Sounds like a perfect opportunity to buy stocks.Billy T said:
Nothing wrong with investing in one's future -- unless one has chosen to hold out for that Gov'm'nt check in the mailbox every month.
Dignified Retirement is what some folks call that.
Me? I'm gonna call my broker, right now.
The sheeple march into the polling places and solemnly vote against their own interests, and then go home and return to watching the glowing lobotomy box. Another day closer to death and eternal obscurity.
Billy T said:
WMD News Story- EXTRA! 1 2
Buffalo Roam said:
However.......
They probably would have been intended for chemical attacks during the Iran-Iraq War, said David Kay, who headed the U.S. weapons-hunting team in Iraq from 2003 until early 2004. He said experts on Iraq's chemical weapons are in "almost 100 percent agreement" that sarin nerve agent produced from the 1980s would no longer be dangerous. "It is less toxic than most things that Americans have under their kitchen sink at this point," Kay said.
So I'd say pretty dumb
Michael
(Post #1 moved here for new readers convenience)
Next bold line is SUMMARY of corn-based-ethanol New York Times article of 25 June 2006:
Expect to pay higher taxes (for the subsidies) and higher food prices while big agri-business gets richer.
Article ends with:
"With oil prices at $70 a barrel sharply lifting the prices paid for ethanol, the average processing plant is earning a net profit of more than $5 a bushel on the corn it is buying for about $2 a bushel, Mr. Basse said. And that is before the 51-cent-a-gallon tax credit given to refiners and blenders that incorporate ethanol into their gasoline. It is truly yellow gold" See: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/25/b...cf7f34&ex=1308888000&partner=rssyahoo&emc=rss
Also in NYT report:
"Despite continuing doubts about whether the fuel provides a genuine energy saving, at least 39 new ethanol plants are expected to be completed over the next 9 to 12 months..."
"...ADM has not lost interest in promoting ethanol among farm organizations, politicians and the news media. It is by far the biggest beneficiary of more than $2 billion in government subsidies the ethanol industry receives each year, via a 51-cent-a-gallon tax credit given to refiners and blenders that mix ethanol into their gasoline. ADM will earn an estimated $1.3 billion from ethanol alone in the 2007 fiscal year."
{Billy T adds: NOT included is the subsidy given to corn growers or more than half of all farm subsidies! ADM = Archer Daniels Midland}
"While ADM has pushed ethanol, rivals like Cargill* have been more skeptical. To Mr. Staley, ethanol is over promoted as a solution to the nation's energy challenges, and the growth in production, if unchecked, has the potential to ravage America's livestock industry and harm the nation's reliability as an exporter of corn and its byproducts. ... "Unless we have huge increases in productivity, we will have a huge problem with food production," Mr. Staley said." And the world will have to make choices. ....analysts doubt whether the scientists and farmers can keep up with the ethanol merchants." {Remainder of post is comments by Billy T, not NYTimes. NYT lacks courage? (To tell: "All the News, Fit to Print") }
Looks like big oil must share space on back of US tax payers who soon will not be eating beef. Do you think you can carry the load still?; Or is it:
Time to clean out Washington, end alcohol import quotas; end the 54 cents per gallon import duty; end subsidities to big farms; so Brazil can sell you alcohol for ~60% of what you are paying for gasoline now, AND lower your taxes!
.................................................................................................................................................Again I ask: HOW DUMB CAN US VOTERS BE?
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*Gargill is privately held. Annually, most of the 100s of millions of your tax dollars Cargill collects go basically to a family group as Gargill has no shareholders. ....I have no doubt many $ return to Washington Politicians (of both parties) so I guess it is all fair. ... What do your think?
Next bold line is SUMMARY of corn-based-ethanol New York Times article of 25 June 2006:
Expect to pay higher taxes (for the subsidies) and higher food prices while big agri-business gets richer.
Article ends with:
"With oil prices at $70 a barrel sharply lifting the prices paid for ethanol, the average processing plant is earning a net profit of more than $5 a bushel on the corn it is buying for about $2 a bushel, Mr. Basse said. And that is before the 51-cent-a-gallon tax credit given to refiners and blenders that incorporate ethanol into their gasoline. It is truly yellow gold" See: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/25/b...cf7f34&ex=1308888000&partner=rssyahoo&emc=rss
Also in NYT report:
"Despite continuing doubts about whether the fuel provides a genuine energy saving, at least 39 new ethanol plants are expected to be completed over the next 9 to 12 months..."
"...ADM has not lost interest in promoting ethanol among farm organizations, politicians and the news media. It is by far the biggest beneficiary of more than $2 billion in government subsidies the ethanol industry receives each year, via a 51-cent-a-gallon tax credit given to refiners and blenders that mix ethanol into their gasoline. ADM will earn an estimated $1.3 billion from ethanol alone in the 2007 fiscal year."
{Billy T adds: NOT included is the subsidy given to corn growers or more than half of all farm subsidies! ADM = Archer Daniels Midland}
"While ADM has pushed ethanol, rivals like Cargill* have been more skeptical. To Mr. Staley, ethanol is over promoted as a solution to the nation's energy challenges, and the growth in production, if unchecked, has the potential to ravage America's livestock industry and harm the nation's reliability as an exporter of corn and its byproducts. ... "Unless we have huge increases in productivity, we will have a huge problem with food production," Mr. Staley said." And the world will have to make choices. ....analysts doubt whether the scientists and farmers can keep up with the ethanol merchants." {Remainder of post is comments by Billy T, not NYTimes. NYT lacks courage? (To tell: "All the News, Fit to Print")
}Looks like big oil must share space on back of US tax payers who soon will not be eating beef. Do you think you can carry the load still?; Or is it:
Time to clean out Washington, end alcohol import quotas; end the 54 cents per gallon import duty; end subsidities to big farms; so Brazil can sell you alcohol for ~60% of what you are paying for gasoline now, AND lower your taxes!
.................................................................................................................................................Again I ask: HOW DUMB CAN US VOTERS BE?
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*Gargill is privately held. Annually, most of the 100s of millions of your tax dollars Cargill collects go basically to a family group as Gargill has no shareholders. ....I have no doubt many $ return to Washington Politicians (of both parties) so I guess it is all fair.
... What do your think?
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Dr Hannibal Lecter said:
Heh, "glowing lobotomy box", I like that. The box, that is.
the first election was not legal, and the second election happened the way it did because the t.v. told us to vote for bush.Novacane said:How dumb can U.S. voters be? Simple answer. They voted GWB in as president of the U.S. for two continous terms. The results speak for themselves, don't they?
t.v. is our god. why do you think i moved to europe?
The Devil Inside said:
Because the real patriots kicked you out?
with extreme prejudice......i dont bleed enough blue and white with my red, apparently.spuriousmonkey said:
*shrug* ill bleed black red and yellow now, i guess.