important thing is THE US PEOPLE were not asked before bombing Japan.
Why is that the “most” important thing…more important than millions of lives? Countries do have military secrets. No successful military has intentionally divulged its battle secrets and abilities. It is rather stupid to do so. Allied civilians were not asked before D day either. We have generals and chain of command for a reason.
Japan was almost defeated. germany was attacked from all sides. only USSR could nuke US but they did not do, they knew US would do the same.
You need to check your history. The USSR stole US nuclear technology. And sure, the USSR had the ability to attack the US with nuclear weapons. But the USSR never had the ability to survive such an attack as you point out. And Russia didn’t invade or attack the US as Japan did. The Russia and the US were allied during WWII. The USSR never had the opportunity which was presented to the Americans. The USSR was never faced with the situation the US faced in dropping nuclear weapons on Japan. Those are important distinctions.
In war and in life, "almost" doesn’t count. Operation Downfall, the US invasion of Japan, would have resulted in the loss of millions of lives, civilian and military. Japan wasn’t going to surrender. Even after the atomic bombs were dropped, Japan didn’t immediately surrender. After the Emperor had decided to surrender, elements of his military revolted and staged a coup to prevent the Emperor from surrendering. The fact is, Japan was still fighting...defeated or not. Japanese sailors, soldiers, and pilots were still attacking US assets in the region.
Japan 'to convince a already defeated country, so through a bomb', this thing is wrong. why US officials did not try another method.
An already defeated country that was still fighting and still killing thousands of people with each passing day, kamikazes were attacking US shipping daily. A state of war existed between Japan and the US and war was still being fought. Japan was warned by the US, that it had a new and devastating weapon and would use it if Japan didn’t surrender and Japan didn’t surrender and the bombs were dropped as promised.
Japan they wanted to test and they did it.
They already tested it and it worked. They tested it inside the US.
Japan one thing more, people are people, not numbers that killing less makes difference, when one dies suffer all, when all die suffer all.
Yes people are people, but that is like saying dogs are dogs. So you would prefer that 11 million people died in the end days of the war rather than the 150k to 250k who died in the nuclear attacks? Is that what you are telling me? Because that is the choice the US faced before dropping the nuclear bombs on Japan.
Japan i am not trying to be right here, i have learned calculations of dead are futile.
Especially when they don’t support your contentions…
Japan the bombing was done intentionally by US government which does not represent its people.
Well, actually it does…especially during that time period. Prior to WWII the US had no interest in foreign wars. But it was dragged into it after Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, declared war on the US and subsequently attacked the Midway Islands and Germany declared war on the US in support of its Axis power (i.e. Japan).
The nuclear bombs were dropped on Japan and with the support of the American people for the reasons I have previously given. You argue there was an alternative which you cannot define in any meaningful way, much less prove. The fact remains that an 11 million lives were saved with the dropping of those bombs on Japan. Would you rather 11 million more dead through conventional warfare? Death in a flash or nuclear radiation is more merciful than being incinerated alive or stabbed, starved, beaten, drowned, or shot to death (i.e. conventional warfare). Death by conventional warfare isn’t so nice either. And conventional warfare, especially at that time and at that place, didn’t discriminate between civilians and combatants. Japanese civilians committed suicide rather than surrender. Surrender wasn’t something Japanese culture allowed. Surrender was an anathema to Japanese citizens both civilian and military and that is one reason why the Japanese death count was so high during WWII. And Japan was at least equally guilty of killing civilians - ever heard about the rape of Nanking?
The best solution to war is what transpired after the war. The US, through the Marshall Plan, rebuilt Japan and Western Europe. Stable world governance based on mutual respect, trade, economic prosperity, transparency, education, and democracy is the best way to prevent the kind of warfare we saw in the last century.