Holy Shit Ancient Egyptians were Black!!

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[insert racist joke about slave labor]

Seriously though... I am not one bit suprised. Living in any area like that, one is bound to get a tan.
 
LOL. We should get back on track before this thread gets locked.

Where is D'ster? I bet he has something to learn.
 
No. They weren't.

This is black supremacist NONSENSE.

The lack of negroid features in the majority of sculpture, art, and data from corpses unequivocally classifies Egyptians as non-black.

Consider the most recent conception of how king Tut is thought to have looked like: http://blog.espen.net/blog2/blogs/media/2_21_king_tut.jpg

Note the lack skin tone, the hair, the straight nose, the only moderately puffy lips...
 
Then again... the OP could be thinking "If your skin is not white, then you are black."
 
No. They weren't.

This is black supremacist NONSENSE.

The lack of negroid features in the majority of sculpture, art, and data from corpses unequivocally classifies Egyptians as non-black.

Consider the most recent conception of how king Tut is thought to have looked like: http://blog.espen.net/blog2/blogs/media/2_21_king_tut.jpg

Note the lack skin tone, the hair, the straight nose, the only moderately puffy lips...

It's obvious you haven't read the scientific study. If you have, can you please indicate what portion of the study you're refuting? Can you please link the sources that you're basing your counter argument on? The evidence cleary indicates that based on the dental observations,the populace of northern Africa was homogenous from the neolithic to the pre-dyanistic period.
 
No. They weren't.

This is black supremacist NONSENSE.

The lack of negroid features in the majority of sculpture, art, and data from corpses unequivocally classifies Egyptians as non-black.

Consider the most recent conception of how king Tut is thought to have looked like: http://blog.espen.net/blog2/blogs/media/2_21_king_tut.jpg

Note the lack skin tone, the hair, the straight nose, the only moderately puffy lips...



That's a hypothesis, not saying it's wrong! But there's other factors that one can measure to determine ones race. Like dental records, which is irefutable!
 
No dental records of Egyptians show them to be primarily negro. And again, the tremendous absence Thnegroid features in their art, in mummies, and in the records of other peoples.

I will, however, note that it is extremely likely that Egyptians had enough contact with negros through the Nubians and Ethiopians to have a large minority of mulattos.
 
No dental records of Egyptians show them to be primarily negro.

Can you please link the source of your information. The link that I provided, conducted by the University of Alaska, provides irefutable proof that Ancient Egyptians were descendants of the negroid idigenous tribes. Until you can provide an anthropoligical study that supports your conclusions, i'm afraid your obersvations are basesless.




And again, the tremendous absence Thnegroid features in their art, in mummies, and in the records of other peoples.

http://library.thinkquest.org/3538/ancient.htm

This Sculputure clearly depicts negroid features.

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/Gallery/Egyp031_big_copy.jpg

http://pictures.buysculpture.com/egypt/etutan/etutan-2.jpg

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/Gallery/Egyp216_big_copy.jpg

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/Gallery/Egyp186_big_copy.jpg

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/Gallery/Egyp380_big_copy.jpg

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/Gallery/egyp003_big_copy.jpg

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/Gallery/Egyp349_big_copy.jpg

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/Gallery/Egyp231_big_copy.jpg



I will, however, note that it is extremely likely that Egyptians had enough contact with negros through the Nubians and Ethiopians to have a large minority of mulattos.

There's no scientific data to support your theory. You're blustering once again.
 
That the Egyptians were black is supported by historical writings.

The Greek historian Herodotus, for example, described the Colchians of the Black Sea shores as "Egyptians by race" and pointed out they had "black skins and kinky hair."

Apollodorus, the Greek philosopher, described Egypt as "the country of the black-footed ones" and the Latin historian Ammianus Marcellinus said "the men of Egypt are mostly brown or black with a skinny desiccated look."
 
This all falls apart with the fact mummies still have hair alot of the time. Not only do they not have frizzy hair (ever? Never heard of it or seen it) but blondes and red heads are common. So if anything it seems the ancient egyptians were even less "dark" than one would assume (judging by egyptians of today).
They weren't even "araby", let alone negroid.
Not the important ones anyway.
 
Well, actually yes. I was going to mention that one - also, call me old fashioned here, but the Egyptians were monumentally diligent civil servants and archivists. They documented in their own hand virtually everything, including highly illustrative depictions of themselves which clearly show delineation between "Egyptian" and people of black African descent.
 
This all falls apart with the fact mummies still have hair alot of the time. Not only do they not have frizzy hair (ever? Never heard of it or seen it) but blondes and red heads are common. So if anything it seems the ancient egyptians were even less "dark" than one would assume (judging by egyptians of today).
They weren't even "araby", let alone negroid.
Not the important ones anyway.

Umm Nope.

In the early 1970s, the Czech anthropologist Eugen Strouhal examined pre-dynastic Egyptian skulls at Cambridge University. He sent some samples of the hair to the Institute of Anthropology at Charles University, Prague, to be analyzed. The hair samples were described as varying in texture from "wavy" to "curly" and in colour from "light brown" to "black". Strouhal summarized the results of the analysis:

"The outline of the cross-sections of the hairs was flattened, with indices ranging from 35 to 65. These peculiarities also show the Negroid inference among the Badarians (pre-dynastic Egyptians)."

The term "Negroid influence" suggests intermixture, but as the table suggests this hair is more "Negroid" than the San and the Zulu samples, currently the most Negroid hair in existence!

Since microscopic analysis shows ancient Egyptian hair to be completely African, why does the hair look Caucasoid? Research has given us the answers.

Hair is made of keratin protein. Keratin is composed of amino acid chains called polypeptides. In a hair, two such chains are called cross-chain polypeptides. These are held together by disulphide bonds. The bulk of the hair, the source of its strength and curl, is called the cortex. The hair shafts are made of a protective outer layer called the cuticle.

We are informed by Afro Hair - A Salon Book, that chemicals for bleaching, penning and straightening hair must reach the cortex to be effective. For hair to be permed or straightened the disulphide bonds in the cortex must be broken. The anthropologist Daniel Hardy writing in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology, tells us that keratin is stable owing to disulphide bonds. However, when hair is exposed to harsh conditions it can lead to oxidation of protein molecules in the cortex, which leads to the alteration of hair texture, such as straightening.

Two British anthropologists, Brothwell and Spearman, have found evidence of cortex keratin oxidation in ancient Egyptian hair. They held that the mummification process was responsible, because of the strong alkaline substance used. This resulted in the yellowing and browning of hair as well as the straightening effect.

This means that visual appearance of the hair on mummies cannot disguise their racial affinities. The presence of blonde and brown hair on ancient Egyptian mummies has nothing to do with their racial identity and everything to do with mummification and the passage of time. As the studies have shown, when you put the evidence under a microscope the truth comes out.

Red Hair:
Henna in Ancient Egypt:

Ahmose-Henttimehu 17th Dynasty (1574 BC): Henttimehu was probably a daughter of Seqnenre-Taa II and Ahmose-Inhapi.
Smith reports that the mummy of Henttimehu own hair had been dyed a bright red at the sides, probably with henna.

Reference: G. Elliott Smith, The Royal Mummies, Duckworth Publishing; (September, 2000)

http://www.homestead.com/wysinger/hair2.html
 
And this would be why the Egyptians depicted themselves as with an emphasis on lighter skin and more aquiline features, becasue....?
 
And this would be why the Egyptians depicted themselves as with an emphasis on lighter skin and more aquiline features, becasue....?

They were admixtures perhaps?

Seti1a.jpg


A Syrian, a Nubian, a Libyan, and an Egyptian, drawing by an unknown artist after a mural of the tomb of Seti I
 
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