Hispanic immigrants

Michael

歌舞伎
Valued Senior Member
In a few decades, more than a quarter of the people of the USA will be Hispanic immigrants and the great majority of them will be socially conservative. I suppose they will naturally oppose abortion and homosexuality and popssibly be Catholic?

All values of mainstream Republicans. In a decade people will have forgotten Bush. I think we are doomed to repeat this fiasco. I hope Dems are planning now how make good for the Hispanic vote.

Michael
 
Michael said:
In a few decades, more than a quarter of the people of the USA will be Hispanic immigrants and the great majority of them will be socially conservative. I suppose they will naturally oppose abortion and homosexuality and popssibly be Catholic?
I wonder what Native Americans thought about when waves of European and African immigrants swamped them ?
I suppose if you want a perspective on immigration control Id imagine the Native Americans would have some opinions of their own .
 
No I'm not saying that. Yes it was wrong of the Europeans to colonize the Americas.

What I am saying is that because Hispanic tend to be conservative, how will the Democrates be able to garnish their needed support in the coming future. I certainly don't want to see the USA get even more conservative. To me that's going backwards. No abortion rights, no homosexual rights ... perhaps even less religious tolerance?
 
I don't know about all Hispanic people, but Mexicans are religious and conservative, however they do not agree with the Republican party in America which tries to curb immigrations rights and opposes positive immigration reform. They will probably vote democrat, even though they are religious and have conservative values.

Peace
 
Brian Foley said:
I wonder what Native Americans thought about when waves of European and African immigrants swamped them ?

"Native Americans" are immigrants from Asia.
 
When Republicans stop fighting for immigration reform, building fences and deporting illegals, we can start talking about the possibility of Hispanics voting Republican.
 
Uggh..instead of coming here why not try to fix there own countries? What makes us think when things get bad here they wont just pack up and go to a better country?
 
spiritual_spy said:
Uggh..instead of coming here why not try to fix there own countries? What makes us think when things get bad here they wont just pack up and go to a better country?

Why not? If things keep going in the same direction as they are now, with facist laws like the Patriot Act, pre-emptive wars launched on faulty intelligence, ignoring terror warnings that lead to terror attacks on our soil (the 9/11 attacks were spelled out in an intelligence memo that Bush ignored), banning gay marriage, banning stem cell research, tapping my phone lines, collecting my phone records, spying on dissenting protest marchers, tampering with our free elections, trillion dollar tax cuts, cutting social programs, runaway defense spending, running up the national debt to astronomical proportions, and so on. I'll be moving to Canada pretty soon.

The question is, will you lovely and just Canadians harbor a helpless refugee like myself? ;)
 
Uggh..instead of coming here why not try to fix there own countries? What makes us think when things get bad here they wont just pack up and go to a better country?

Because most people prefer "instant gratification". If illegal immigrants were to stay and fix the problem, they most likely wouldn't be able to see those benefits in their lifetime.

- N
 
A lot of Americans like instant gratification too. Why didn't their ancestors stay in Europe and fix their problems there?
 
A lot of Americans like instant gratification too. Why didn't their ancestors stay in Europe and fix their problems there?

For the reason you just stated. They moved on to bigger and better things to form America, the land of the new, for that instant gratification rather than staying behind. Living in a newly discovered land is true freedom.

- N
 
I have no objections to immigrants as long as they do the following:

#1 Learn English
#2 Get shots for foreign diseases
#3 Pay Taxes
#4 Don't do crack and other hard drugs
#5 Don't start any gangs once over the border
#6 Don't be anti-American in America
 
Michael said:
In a few decades, more than a quarter of the people of the USA will be Hispanic immigrants and the great majority of them will be socially conservative. I suppose they will naturally oppose abortion and homosexuality and popssibly be Catholic? All values of mainstream Republicans.
Americans of Latin American ancestry have the highest rate of assimilation of any ethnic group. Something like half of the first-generation immigrants marry Americans of other ancestry. That's compared to about ten percent of Chinese immigrants and, though the phenomenon is too new to compile statistics, probably about the same for immigrants from the Mideast.

By the third generation the rate is so high that for all practical purposes there is no fourth generation. It's hard to find a third-generation Mexican-American unless you count people like Linda Ronstadt who rediscover their "roots."

Notwithstanding the barrios and the Minutevermin, Latinos and Americans seem to get along splendidly and blend readily. Better than a lot of people from adjacent countries do, such as Turkey and Armenia just to pick an example at random.

So there's no way that such a huge fraction of Americans will be recognizably Hispanic. Their identity will dissipate as quickly as the assimilated are replaced by new immigrants.

The influx of people from other Latin American nations will only accelerate the process. They may all read the same newspapers and listen to the same music, but despite the cheerleading headlines in those newspapers there is no significant pan-Latin "community" maintaining a supranational identity. A person from Mexico may seek out and marry another person from Mexico because those particular people are still more comfortable with old familiar ways. But Mexicans who don't feel that way are not going to make a special effort to find Salvadoreños or Colombians just because they can talk to them in Spanish. They're just as likely to fall in love with an American. And how fortunate for everyone that we seem to feel the same way.

As for religion, the Reformation is just building up steam south of the border and is in full swing on this side. There are Spanish-language Protestant churches in every barrio. However, they tend to be the fundamentalist sects so they'll be even more conservative than the Catholics and way more Republican.
 
Fraggle Rocker said:
Americans of Latin American ancestry have the highest rate of assimilation of any ethnic group. Something like half of the first-generation immigrants marry Americans of other ancestry. That's compared to about ten percent of Chinese immigrants and, though the phenomenon is too new to compile statistics, probably about the same for immigrants from the Mideast.

By the third generation the rate is so high that for all practical purposes there is no fourth generation. It's hard to find a third-generation Mexican-American unless you count people like Linda Ronstadt who rediscover their "roots."
Link? Or did you just make this up?
 
D'ster said:
Link? Or did you just make this up?

A link to what, exactly? His statements are true, that's why the census bureau had to add two more ethnic groups, White or Black Hispanics, and if you wish to mark "White" only, it will have "non-Hispanic" in parenthesis.
 
Back
Top