Everyday anomalies

Magical Realist said:
Nothing to contribute troll?
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Ironically, that's what I was asking you.

You've posted a fairly apparently staged video.
Whether or not it is staged, it is certainly trivial to do so. How is it any more compelling than a million other videos on the internet just like it? The creators are laughing the way to the bank every time someone watches this and then reposts it for more eyes. You're contributing to the enshittification of the internet.

Or perhaps this one genuinely mystified you in particular. Is it because something disappeared behind a tree? Is this the same 'object permanence' thing that flummoxed you with the guy on the roller coaster?

So the question-at-hand is: why draw this particular dime-a-dozen post to the attention of readers, unless it's because you're not yet familiar with the internet and its widespread propensity for fakery, or are mystified by object permanence?
 
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Magical Realist said:
Really? So what evidence do you have for this claim?
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It's not a claim; it's an observation.
Since we're demanding evidence, what evidence do you have that it's bona fide?

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How was an obvious cellphone video of a mere walk in the woods "staged"?
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How is a(n easily staged video) of a guy hiding behind a tree evidence of anything anomalous? Why would you assume it's not staged, like a million other cheap ten second click-bait videos out there?

Recall: you posted this, presumably for some reason. I'm simply asking why this one instead of a million others?

Consider the internet like a giant unregulated exhibition of midway games, where anyone can come along and set up a stall to part users from their money with a few seconds of entertainment.

The vast majority of midway games are admittedly crooked, but you've come across one that you think is not. How do you distinguish that this one - of all the games in the midway - is not crooked enough that you're willing it to give it a try and suggest others give it a try? Is it because the guy that set up the stall and put out the pop guns tells you it's not crooked? A stranger has no reason to lie to you, does he?
 
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Magical Realist said:
I see. So you have no evidence that it is staged at all. Just as I thought.
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I have things that make me think it's staged, just as you apparently have things that make you think it's not.

But since you posted it - and you have opened the door to demanding evidence - what evidence do you have that it's bona fide? What evidence do you have that it isn't simply click-bait, like a million other similar videos on the internet, and that the creator and poster of the content isn't just after likes and eyeballs that make them money?
 
The video was posted on a national TV show. The man who took it said the figure was so black it was like staring into the void. And that's exactly what we see. A black shadow figure and not some person. And the figure disappears when it moves behind the tree trunk. That's why the video is paranormal evidence. The fact that shadow figures are a common paranormal phenomenon witnessed all over the world further confirms this encounter as real. Should I post more? Nevermind. Here's another one:

"Ghosts on a plane? Francisco Hernandez was finishing his shift when he heard a mysterious noise coming from the plane and went to investigate. As the 32-year-old shines his torch down the aisle, a shadowy figure peers around the corner at him. In the horrifying footage, Francisco was left trembling with fear after clocking off at 3am. He explored the dark plane in Mexico City as part of the airline's protocol after he heard doors slamming on it. Original Article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic...Original Video: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news...


 
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Magical Realist said:
The video was posted on a national TV show.
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What show? You list something about ""Paranormal Caught On Tape" tv episode" but I find no such TV show.

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The man who took it said the figure was so black it was like staring into the void. And that's exactly what we see.
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That's not what we see; that's what you see.

It looks pretty normally black to this person who as seen a lot of black, such as that which felt or a heavy cloak is made of.
What evidence do you have that it is anomalously black as distinct from just black?

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A black shadow figure and not some person.
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How do you know it's not some person? It looks like a person with a black cloak. What evidence do you have that it's not that?

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And the figure disappears when it moves behind the tree trunk.
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Ah there it is.

Recall:

"Object permanence describes a child's ability to know that objects continue to exist even though they can no longer be seen or heard. If you have ever played a game of "peek-a-boo" with a very young child, then you probably understand how this works."
www.verywellmind.com

Object Permanence: How Infants Know That Unseen Objects Continue to Exist

Object permanence is the ability to understand that objects still exist even if they are no longer visible. Learn when it first appears and how it develops.
www.verywellmind.com www.verywellmind.com

This is something you have learned since the roller coaster post. Let's see how much you've retained. It would be very informative to watch this video and itemize the number of paranormal disappearance events that occur in it.

 
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Should I post more?
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I appreciate you seeking feedback on what to post.

After reviewing the above video about object permanence, you should endeavour to post stuff that would intrigue adults who
- know the difference between documentary and entertainment TV shows, and
- have visited the internet
- are aware of object permanence.

But after reviewing the video.
 
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Magical Realist said:
www.travelchannel.com

Paranormal Caught on Camera

Watch clips and full episodes of Paranormal Caught on Camera from Travel Channel
www.travelchannel.com www.travelchannel.com
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OK, since I'm not familiar with the show, I'm trying to wade through the user reviews. Here's the top 4 results from the user reviews:

• "...most of the run time is made up of crappy stock footage and the "experts" giving their over the top theories that don't make sense..."

• "I think that the whole thing is a hoax ... It looks pretty cool, but it is nothing real."

• "...you have to scratch your head on and wonder they could be real paranormal stuff. But most of the clips this show has are obvioulsy fake. I mean the Grubb guy controlling the wind, anyone can stand on a hill beside a building on a windy day and do that, total fake."

• "I cannot tell you how often I watch this just to laugh at the 'experts.'"


Are you sure I've got the right show (maybe check the name? again?), because it seems to me a lot of people think this one is a joke.



Meanwhile, how are you doing with your homework? Like I did, be sure to check the user comments to see how many other viewers saw paranormal activity. (I mean, other than the dogs and cockatiels who, it is commonly known, are sensitive to paranormal activity.)

Here is the video again, in case it has slipped off the top of your screen and you thought maybe it had disappeared paranormally. (It's OK. It's still there, even though you can't see it.)

 
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Magical Realist said:
LOL Anybody can cherrypick bad reviews of anything. Doesn't prove a thing.
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I did not cherry pick. Those were the top four reviews.
Not trying to prove anything. You demanded evidence that it was staged.
I'm simply demanding evidence that it wasn't. A crummy fake-pushing entertainment show makes for pretty weak evidence. In fact, it makes pretty good evidence that it's fake.


But enough about my homework, how are you doing on your homework? How many paranormal disappearances did you count on that video?

Oh shoot, it's scrolled off the top of your screen again, hasn't it? that means you think it's paranormally vanished doesn't it? Here it is again:

 
You demanded evidence that it was staged.
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Random trolls on the internet saying "I bet this show is fake" isn't evidence of anything, least of all that it's fake. Once again you fail to present any evidence the videos are staged.
 
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Random trolls on the internet saying "I bet this show is fake" isn't evidence of anything, least of all that it's fake.
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Wait what? What makes you think they're trolls? They're complete strangers to you, so you trust them implicitly. You have no reason to think a complete stranger would lie. Anyone who assumes a stranger would lie to them has a problem with their brain.

Right, MR?

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Once again you fail to present any evidence the videos are staged.
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Since we're demanding evidence, what evidence do you have that it's not staged, and that the creator is not lying?

You still haven't given an update on the disappearances video. Here it is again:
 
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hey're complete strangers to you, so you trust them implicitly. You have no reason to think a complete stranger would lie. Anyone who assumes a stranger would lie to them has a problem with their brain.
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I have no reason to assume the guy who was there and filmed the video would lie. Random naysayers on the internet otoh will say anything. If you don't think so you are pretty naive.
 
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I have no reason to assume the guy who was there and filmed the video would lie. Random naysayers on the internet otoh will say anything.
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Guy A: "I have no reason to assume he would lie."
Guy B: "He would say anything."
What makes you decide who would lie and who would say anything?
Why do you assume guy one would not lie but guy two would?

Is this case of "Of course he's a criminal, your honour. Look at him! He looks like a criminal!"

Is it just possible that you believe the one that supports your pre-existing beliefs?

Which is more likely to lie?
- the guy who stands to gain publicity, fame and possibly fortune from his lie
- the guy who stands to gain nothing
 
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