Earth v. Mars

water does not cause the ozone to deplete. it is destroyed by chemicals created through industrial processes, etc. the ozone is made up of oxygen atoms that are created by a single O atom forming with an O2 molecule to make O3 which is ozone.

if the water destroyed the ozone we would have been done years ago. the water is heated by the uv lights getting through the ozone which results in global warming.

what i am presenting is trying to form ozone through a chemical reaction of the water in the oceans and having a byproduct of hydrogen to be used for fuel.

any comments.
 
thecollage said:
water does not cause the ozone to deplete. it is destroyed by chemicals created through industrial processes, etc. the ozone is made up of oxygen atoms that are created by a single O atom forming with an O2 molecule to make O3 which is ozone.

if the water destroyed the ozone we would have been done years ago. the water is heated by the uv lights getting through the ozone which results in global warming.

what i am presenting is trying to form ozone through a chemical reaction of the water in the oceans and having a byproduct of hydrogen to be used for fuel.

any comments.
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yeah...learn to read please. I never said that ozone layer is destroyed by water.
 
draqon said:
yeah...learn to read please. I never said that ozone layer is destroyed by water.
And how can you use ocean to rebuilt ozone? Evaporate em? thatll cause greenhouse effect...as water is main ozone depleting chemical.
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yeah, i guess you did not. why don't you learn how to remember.

when in your disjointed sentance you stated, "as water is main ozone depleting chemical", that most definitely indicates you believe it destroys the ozone.

thanks for your time on this one, but you would be better off building a rocket and colonizing Uranus. colonization is what AA is to an alcoholic, a way to avoid the reality of the issue.
 
thecollage said:
yeah, i guess you did not. why don't you learn how to remember.

when in your disjointed sentance you stated, "as water is main ozone depleting chemical", that most definitely indicates you believe it destroys the ozone.

thanks for your time on this one, but you would be better off building a rocket and colonizing Uranus. colonization is what AA is to an alcoholic, a way to avoid the reality of the issue.
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well excuse me...I made a mistake, I meant to say water is main cause of greenhouse effect. And since you use my profile like piece of shit to throw into my face, I am done with this discussion.

as for gettin O3 from H2O...just have UV exposure on water.

Its quite obvious that I made a typo and was blind not to see it...but it is logically can be seen that it was indeed a type as this sentence I typed earlier "And how can you use ocean to rebuilt ozone? Evaporate em? thatll cause greenhouse effect...as water is main ozone depleting chemical" talked about water evaporation causing greenhouse effect...and than saying that it is the main ozone depleting chemical?...obviously illogicall...obviously a mistake/typo.
 
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Yes - gases and heat; also tectonic plate activity, surface water, the lunar action on the oceans, and dynamic biosphere. Mars is obviously missing these factors (not sure about tectonic activity?) so my query centres around whether Mars lost its atmosphere and dynamism through some loss of one of these factors? e.g. there was once a Mars moon or satellite that went out of orbit due to a collision...pure conjecture/no substantiation...a guess.
 
could there possibly be a correlation between the missing factors you listed and the absence of the atmosphere? if so, that would be a magnificent scientific discovery.
 
It does make sense that if Earth is a good example of a planet with an atmosphere (viable for lifeforms) in local conditions relatively similar to Mars: if the 5 factors (above) are an indicator we could either surmise that a previous Mars atmosphere has been affected by a link in the causal chain; or, it is a 'failed potential Earth;' or, it is a potential Earth in development (e.g. if enough ice accumulated it could start a causal chain by creating surface water, creating temperature gradients, perhaps supporting bacterial life, releasing gases, etc. - however still no moon).

I'm sure this isn't anything that hasn't been discussed before so I claim no credit even if it is novel. I must say that I am a novice in terms of earth sciences having covered only the basics.
 
zenbabelfish said:
Yes - gases and heat; also tectonic plate activity, surface water, the lunar action on the oceans, and dynamic biosphere. Mars is obviously missing these factors (not sure about tectonic activity?) so my query centres around whether Mars lost its atmosphere and dynamism through some loss of one of these factors? e.g. there was once a Mars moon or satellite that went out of orbit due to a collision...pure conjecture/no substantiation...a guess.
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jus look at Mars...its quite obvious why it lost the atmosphere. the many scars it bears from all the asteroids...and the largest of them all is Hellas Planitia...i think.

As for lack of plate tectonics and volcanoes on Earth vs. Mars...heres a nifty pres.

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Anyways this got me thinking...those 3 perfectly aligned volcanoes on Mars...are they due to local plate tectonic movement?? (http://ralphaeschliman.com/mars/Tharsis_Solis.jpg)
 
Nice graphics...So Mars was just a 'wannabee' Earth without that couldn't walk its talk? Even if the asteroids hadn't damaged the atmosphere it lacked the geophysical features to maintain one viable for complex lifeforms?
 
zenbabelfish said:
Nice graphics...So Mars was just a 'wannabee' Earth without that couldn't walk its talk? Even if the asteroids hadn't damaged the atmosphere it lacked the geophysical features to maintain one viable for complex lifeforms?
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well it did have water in the past, oceans of it. Not sure how important the geophysical features are to lifeforms...
 
Makes one wonder if Mars has/had any real 'Supervolcanos' that have existed in the past like Yellowstone or TOBA? If you think so, where is the big crater located on it's surface?
 
jumpercable said:
Makes one wonder if Mars has/had any real 'Supervolcanos' that have existed in the past like Yellowstone or TOBA? If you think so, where is the big crater located on it's surface?
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it might be covered up by dust...

anyways Hellas Planitia...from impact bears some resemblance to what you describe

surface_mars_rel_doc_gal_bthm_01.jpg
 
draqon said:
it might be covered up by dust...

anyways Hellas Planitia...from impact bears some resemblance to what you describe

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If that were a Supervolcano (Hellas Planitia), it would be like comparing a Lady Finger firecracker (Yellowstone) to a 20 megaton hydrogen bomb.
 
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