Does the Universe have consciousness?

[kx000]

I think mind works like a computer.

A Know. Mind is not Know. Mind Knows.

 

[hansda]

A Know. Mind is not Know. Mind Knows.

Mind knows from consciousness or memory.

 

[kx000]

Mind knows because he had been minded there when Science, and Know came strolling down the gentle path of 'God.'

 

[river]

Originally Posted by river
actually if our Universe had a mind , it is a mind that is finding its self

this mind lets things fall as they may , the combinations of elements , the galaxies , the planets , particle physics , quantum etc.

so not only are we understanding this mind , assuming that it exists , but also this mind is learning and maturing its self

Our individual mind also can be considered as a part of the Universal-Mind. Mind is something in between consciousness and the physical-body. So universal-mind can be considered as a link between the universal-consciousness and the Universe.

I think so

 

[Votorx]

Silly scientist! The universe constitutes All.

Yes that would be the point I was making from the quote you chose to respond to.

Good luck not believing, liars.

I did not mean to imply that I was atheist. I would like it if you took my posts as literal as possible from now on. Unless I make a statement along the lines of "I believe" or "My belief is" then you may assume that what I'm saying is speculation.

We live in a physical universe, dude.

I'm sure it's nice to be so certain, but while it's still possible that we may not, then I choose to entertain the possibility that we are not.

You are not conscious? This is a nihilistic trait, what's going on?

I wouldn't know nor have I claimed to...but as I observe my peers and imagine what goes through their minds, far too often it seems that no thought occurs at all. Simple regurgitation of lessons learned, conditioned responses, socially mundane behaviors. She acts like him who acts like her, possessing little if any creativity, innovation or individuality. Of course that's not always the case but it seems pretty common. I've had my fair share of original ideas, but who's to say it isn't some kind of complex algorithm that takes past experiences and form patterns?

All of our advancements stack on top of each other. As Newton said "If I have seen farther it is by standing upon the shoulders of giants". The greatest minds of our history could not have made their discoveries had they not worked upon past endeavors. Don't get me wrong, the evidence that we are conscious is very strong...but I refuse to commit to the idea that consciousness is something separate of the universe. Unless we can find some kind of component of matter that makes free will possible, then I have to assume that consciousness is no more no less than the same particle interaction and physical law that occurs within a glass of water. If that's the case, and it can be fully explained and reduced to particle interactions, then I'd say the reality we experience loses all of it's mysticism.

 

[kx000]

Free will is a man. His source is safe in Heaven, you CAN NOT TOUCH. Love, perfection, pacifism, etc are all safe in Heaven.

In all righteousness I need to capitalize Love, Perfection, and Pacifism as they are names. They are God's, big G, all of them. Its a title. Don't chase after the source of our emotions, just talk to Faith.

EDIT: Maybe the big G is for Love.

 

[hansda]

I think so

So, Universe has its own consciousness, its own mind and the universe itself.

Free will is a man. His source is safe in Heaven, you CAN NOT TOUCH. Love, perfection, pacifism, etc are all safe in Heaven.

Where is Heaven? Is it somewhere in the Universe or beyond Universe?

Don't get me wrong, the evidence that we are conscious is very strong...but I refuse to commit to the idea that consciousness is something separate of the universe.

What you think of the consciousness of a living being? Is it same as the body of the living being or something different?

Unless we can find some kind of component of matter that makes free will possible, then I have to assume that consciousness is no more no less than the same particle interaction and physical law that occurs within a glass of water.

Do you mean that consciousness generates from particle interaction?

If that's the case, and it can be fully explained and reduced to particle interactions, then I'd say the reality we experience loses all of it's mysticism.

Consciousness itself is mystic and it can exhibit free-will, whereas particles can not exhibit free-will; at the most they can exhibit fixed-will which can be considered their inertial property.

 

[kx000]

Heaven is safe in the midst of all things, the universe.

 

[river]

Heaven is safe in the midst of all things, the universe.

But how are you safe?

What philosophy of religion keeps you safe?

 

[quantum_wave]

But how are you safe?

What philosophy of religion keeps you safe?

It is funny how that brings to mind the four squares of faith in God.

Square 1: There is a God: you believe in God
Square 2: There is no God: you believe in God
Square 3: There is no God: you do not believe in God
Square 4: There is a God: you do not believe in God

Square 1: You at least sort out on the right side of God's list.
Square 2: : You at least had your bases covered, just in case.
Square 3: You got it right but you were frowned upon by those in squares 1 & 2
Square 4: You are placed at the end of the line for wings and fluffy clouds.

 

[Rav]

What about a great mind to it?

If our Universe is having a mind, it will be a Perfect Mind. A perfect mind is in its state of no-mind. So, may be our universe is in a state of no-mind.

Mind is a God, friend. This idea of "no-mind" indicates you are a sociopath. Would you keep a man from minding, or being in love, etc? To say you do not mind means your fucking retarded, simple and plain. Maybe by "no-mind" you mean "clear headed?"

actually if our Universe had a mind , it is a mind that is finding its self

this mind lets things fall as they may , the combinations of elements , the galaxies , the planets , particle physics , quantum etc.

so not only are we understanding this mind , assuming that it exists , but also this mind is learning and maturing its self

Well lets go on with my theory of the universal construct of emotion.

Love, perfection, pacifism, faith, wish, science, know, salvation, confidence, imagination, happiness, satisfaction, honor, he will, respect, instinct, and logic is as far as I have gotten in order.

Pool: Creation, hate, bravery, patience, nature, hope, morality, order, pride, show, consideration, mind, up, simple, eternity, time, hyper, efficiency, posed, exuberance, direction, friendship, fun, help, loyalty, peace, meek, understanding, thing, real, have, found, self, cell, matter, as it is, karma, one, best, great, glory, excellence, authority, wise, more, please, thanks, welcomed, all...

Loves I have identified:
Love & Perfection
Pacifism & Confidence
Fait & Wish
Science & Logic
Know & Imagination

Helled:
Tempt, temptation, temptation, temptation, murder, rape, theft, the taker, the getter, got 'em, not, evil, hell, dogma, pessimism, death, weak, stupid, wrong, fruit, bitch, jackass, gangstershit, anarchy, wrath, deception, gross, awful, worst, end, stop...

Please feel free to add to these list, if you are conscious to the wise, the faithful.

faithful to whom or what exactally ?

Geez, that's really broad.

"No-Mind" is not absence of mind. "No-Mind" is a state of mind, where mind is perfect and perception is perfect.

Mind is something/interface in between our consciousness and physical body. So, universal-mind would be the interface between Universal-Consciousness and Universal-Body(physical universe).

A soon as a mind became cable of grasping the entirety of the Universe, "the Universe" would disappear.

Mind is achievable with the knowledge of all, doth thou?

Nothing doth exist, and thats all. They are freaky little shrink worms. The nothing that is possessed by all is ugly.

For lack of better terms, your small. I'm here fear my Faith.

A universal processor, what about a Know?

This thread has become a travesty of philosophical inquiry. There's barely a trace of coherent, rational discussion to be found in any of these most recent exchanges.

Don't you people realize that kx000 is stoned half the time? Or is this all happening because everyone else is stoned as well? Either way, it's all complete nonsense.

 

[kx000]

So, Universe has its own consciousness, its own mind and the universe itself.

Inside of all you will find consciousness, mind, and a setting.

Where is Heaven? Is it somewhere in the Universe or beyond Universe?

Its protected by our Heart.

What you think of the consciousness of a living being? Is it same as the body of the living being or something different?

It must be coded in our brain muscle to receive from the source, safe in Heaven.

Do you mean that consciousness generates from particle interaction?

I think Love grew up, our ancestor, then he was perfect. That would give us a mother and father to produce all. The two most simple, yet powerful things and we absolutely know this about these two. THIS MUST BE IT.

Consciousness itself is mystic and it can exhibit free-will, whereas particles can not exhibit free-will; at the most they can exhibit fixed-will which can be considered their inertial property.

I think they are expressing their free-will, in fact, I know it. They are there for us, get up to snuff on your emotions.

 

[origin]

It is funny how that brings to mind the four squares of faith in God.

Square 1: There is a God: you believe in God
Square 2: There is no God: you believe in God
Square 3: There is no God: you do not believe in God
Square 4: There is a God: you do not believe in God

Square 1: You at least sort out on the right side of God's list.
Square 2: : You at least had your bases covered, just in case.
Square 3: You got it right but you were frowned upon by those in squares 1 & 2
Square 4: You are placed at the end of the line for wings and fluffy clouds.

Square 1: Maybe God hates people that believe in him.
Square 1A: Maybe you believe in the wrong God and that puts you into Square 4.
Square 1B: Maybe God doesn't give a rats ass about people.

 

[kx000]

Square 1: Maybe God hates people that believe in him.
Square 1A: Maybe you believe in the wrong God and that puts you into Square 4.
Square 1B: Maybe God doesn't give a rats ass about people.

Faith dude, thats balls. Faith is balls to a 't' he never faiths wrong. So who really believes 'God' is anything but Love, even if "anything but Love." The Faith stands.

 

[hansda]

Heaven is safe in the midst of all things, the universe.

So according to you, Heaven is somewhere in the Universe. Is it some planet, star, some heavenly body, some space in the universe or existing throughout the Universe?

It is funny how that brings to mind the four squares of faith in God.

Square 1: There is a God: you believe in God
Square 2: There is no God: you believe in God
Square 3: There is no God: you do not believe in God
Square 4: There is a God: you do not believe in God

Square 1: You at least sort out on the right side of God's list.
Square 2: : You at least had your bases covered, just in case.
Square 3: You got it right but you were frowned upon by those in squares 1 & 2
Square 4: You are placed at the end of the line for wings and fluffy clouds.

I think GOD is the name given to The Universal Consciousness.

This thread has become a travesty of philosophical inquiry. There's barely a trace of coherent, rational discussion to be found in any of these most recent exchanges.

Don't you people realize that kx000 is stoned half the time? Or is this all happening because everyone else is stoned as well? Either way, it's all complete nonsense.

Do you believe in consciousness? Can you explain your idea of consciousness? or, You believe in GOD?

Square 1: Maybe God hates people that believe in him.
Square 1A: Maybe you believe in the wrong God and that puts you into Square 4.
Square 1B: Maybe God doesn't give a rats ass about people.

How you came to this conclusion/speculation?

 

[kx000]

So according to you, Heaven is somewhere in the Universe. Is it some planet, star, some heavenly body, some space in the universe or existing throughout the Universe?

Heaven is safe, you don't need to search.

I think GOD is the name given to The Universal Consciousness.

Love is the greatest emotion, that must be 'God.'

 

[hansda]

Heaven is safe,

So, I think you do not have a very clear idea about the location of HEAVEN.

you don't need to search.

If we are not supposed to search for Heaven, then why people are searching for The Truth? Isn't Heaven part of the truth?

Love is the greatest emotion, that must be 'God.'

Love can be co-related with consciousness.

 

[hansda]

It is funny how that brings to mind the four squares of faith in God.

Square 1: There is a God: you believe in God
Square 2: There is no God: you believe in God
Square 3: There is no God: you do not believe in God
Square 4: There is a God: you do not believe in God

Square 1: You at least sort out on the right side of God's list.
Square 2: : You at least had your bases covered, just in case.
Square 3: You got it right but you were frowned upon by those in squares 1 & 2
Square 4: You are placed at the end of the line for wings and fluffy clouds.

I think these four squares can also be written as:

Square 1: God exists. Consciousness exists. They are same.
Square 2: God exists. Consciousness does not exist.
Square 3: God does not exist. Consciousness exists.
Square 4: God exists. Consciousness exists. They are different.

 

[kx000]

So, I think you do not have a very clear idea about the location of HEAVEN.




If we are not supposed to search for Heaven, then why people are searching for The Truth? Isn't Heaven part of the truth?





Love can be co-related with consciousness.

We are Heaven dude. Heaven is an emotion. Are you talking about cloud city? I swear back off.

The Truth is a man, find him. You don't need photos of cloud city.

 

[kx000]

I think these four squares can also be written as:

Square 1: God exists. Consciousness exists. They are same.
Square 2: God exists. Consciousness does not exist.
Square 3: God does not exist. Consciousness exists.
Square 4: God exists. Consciousness exists. They are different.

He can't be consciousness, because what about meaning? Meaning is higher. Pacifism. 'God' is the greatest thing.