Do religious people matter too?

[Pinball1970]

I think I've mentioned voter fraud. Add to that miscommunicated messages and to that obvious enough hostility towards certain types of people and the voting mechanism gets skewed to the point of deliberated assurance. With that stated, and although seemingly a sore spot topic to some, the 1st amendment rights are at least to some extent, being hindered and it would seem for political purposes in favor of particular types of people.

So, I asked if religious people matter. It's suggested that Christians are "the" power in this nation. How about the rest of us? Do we matter? Freedom of speech seems important enough to be listed as a right 1st. You would think accuracy would be no less important, otherwise the guidance is missing and the American people get misled per miscommunicated out of context, over emotional, and charged rhetoric aimed to benefit a particular demographic specifically.

I'm not in favor of this type of propaganda, but it happens. I might suggest that most Americans vote on a color coded ballad. The red, the blue, and the who?

Specific enough or not, this is what I see playing out in this nation.

Still failing to see the main thrust regarding the thread.

BLM is zero to do with religion, probably best starting a completely new thread on that.


If you are religious, especially Christian in the USA you are fine.

Lots of pastors, lots of churches and if you cannot get out of the house you have your TV evangelists.


I cannot speak from experience I can only go off phone ins, debates and things like this https://theconversation.com/why-it-...l-have-bans-on-atheists-holding-office-161069


Atheists are one of the most distrusted (if not THE) group/s in America https://twin-cities.umn.edu/news-events/atheists-remain-most-disliked-religious-minority-us


How many atheists in the senate or Congress? One, Jarad Huff one of only two ever?


So, the people running your country at National and local level are over- represented for the 15% of non-believers in your country.


Do you think religion seeps into policy? Law?

 

[Tiassa]

It's more about the anti religious movements in play than how this nation has operated in times past.

Well, to focus on the result while ignoring what creates it isn't really a good approach to anything.

With that stated, and although seemingly a sore spot topic to some, the 1st amendment rights are at least to some extent, being hindered and it would seem for political purposes in favor of particular types of people.

So, I asked if religious people matter. It's suggested that Christians are "the" power in this nation. How about the rest of us? Do we matter?

Depends on who's in power. When certain Christians are in power, the rest of us only matter because we are seen as the enemy.

"It's suggested," you say, but compared to history, it is unclear what you mean.

At a time when religious people seek to spend fourteen billion dollars helping other religious people massacre yet other religious people, well, we can say, objectively, that religious people matter very much in this country.

If you don't matter as an atheist or if I don't matter as a Christian Evolutionist, or if Samara doesn't matter as a Hindu, or if the others don't matter due to their minority belief system not of "Christian" origin or whatever it is you claim to be "the" power, then we don't really believe nor support the democratic process nor do we support or believe people matter.

There is a lot that seems amiss about that sentence, so I'm going to focus on a middle portion, about a "minority belief system not of 'Christian' origin or whatever it is you claim to be 'the' power": Are you a blank slate on American history? I don't understand quite how you think fronting an ignorance of history helps; lines like, "whatever it is you claim to be 'the' power", insist on a measure of extraneous uncertainty.

 

[Revelation In Space]

I guess what matters is what I am, and not so much how I might identify. I'm an American voter.

Well, that is very brave but you've got a lot of explaining to do.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

OP's off on a believer pity party.

 

[Revelation In Space]

Everybody matters. Religious, non-religious, believer, unbeliever. Black, white, etc.

 

[C C]

[...] Anyway, do religious people matter in America? [...]

For the inquiry to avoid "duh" status, it seems to have to pertain to areas where religious views are arguably excluded -- particularly parts of the academic world.

After the toppling of Eurocentric biases and racism in the future (the decolonization of knowledge), the inclusion of non-Western approaches and views might give multi-ethnic religious thinkers and leaders persuasive influence in once off-limit domains. This, of course, may involve going back to a more ancient orientation where what we now call "religion" was inseparable from local culture, community, and social obligations.

Don't expect Christianity to benefit from the "epistemic revolution" of tomorrow, though, since it was an historic facilitator of Western oppression. Social justice grudges and grievances die hard.
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