Откуда ты знаешь, что радуга существует, Мартин?
Did God create the universe?
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DaveC426913
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Perfect. I get very physical sensations too. Hunger, cramps, etc.
Feelings and intuition are internal processes. They do not sense the external world without employing your sight, hearing, etc.
So, again, you "feel" God exists. You "intuit" God exists. That is distinct from "knowing" God exists.
You are using the term "know" figuratively, in its "faith" meaning. That's fine. Likewise, I "know" there are aliens on Jupiter. I have no evidence I can show you, I just "feel" it in my gut. I "intuit" it.
Try to tell me you are not convinced there are aliens on Jupiter. AlI have to do is say "I know there are". You have no recourse. It is established fact.
Дэйв, вы просто не в теме. Интуиция, это и есть знание. Настоящая, а не придуманная интуиция. Интуиты знают, когда кому то из близких плохо. Интуиты знают, когда где то происходят стихийные бедствия с многочисленными жертвами. Интуиты знают, когда на Солнце происходят вспышки, ещё до того, как об этом узнают астрономы на Земле. Они даже знают, когда кто то откручивает колесо на их машине. Они такими рождаются, это обычно наследственное.
People can be intuitive, like an "intuitive visual mathematician" who in high school could get right answers on exams while screwing up and failing the set formulas (A's on answers, F's on formulas, C's for end results after repeat exams after normal school hours to assure watchful instructors the student wasn't cheating on the original exams.
Я в школе решала задачи по математике, которые сами учителя решить не могли. А у нас была сильная математическая школы, наши выпускники на многих олимпиадах побеждали. Просто видела взаимосвязи в цифрах, хотя формул ещё не знала, их учат в ВУЗах. Ничего сверхестественного, просто аналитический склад ума.
Is that some kind of joke? We can see rainbows. We know how they work. Duh.
You're either ignorant or lying. That would be Aristotle who was not a monk.
That's what you do, you pretend to know things when in fact you're lying or delusional.
Yeah Dave, you're just so out of the loop, whatever that is.
Nope. You are dead wrong.
Complete and utter bullshit. You are revealing yourself to be a world class liar, a very bad liar, of course. And, you're trying to tell us you're special, that you have special powers because you were 'born that way'. Either that, or you have serious mental health issues.
So few words, so many lies.
George Orwell, in his book 'Animal Farm', characterized his animals and situations to illustrate in short forms, simply, complex realities too complex for most people to absorb, or even to hold their attention span. The ancient sages, able to see and deal in the complexity, cartoonishly illustrated complexity for the mass majority of the common people. Thus the Tree of Life and Knowledge in the center of the Garden of Eden, and Eden itself.
More, realities twisted and expanded to legends. On obelisks in Egypt, telling ancient Egyptian histories, there was a massive invasion of Egypt by a sea people of the Mediterranean Sea, justly barely, finally, contained and defeated. The eventual legend: This sea opened for an escaping Hebrew slave horde and closed behind the horde upon the pursuing Egyptians, though the particular historical incident developed differently, changing in its characteristics and physics after retelling upon retelling, upon retelling. The "sea people" part disappeared in the story and the "sea" part of the story remained.
There is very good predictions in the Bible. 'Noah's Ark' for example, predicting rotating artificial gravity cloud city-state-like colonies in space in orbits of Earth-Moon LaGrange Points, Mars, Venus, the Asteroid Belt, Jupiter and Jupiter's major moons, Saturn and Saturn's major moons, and on, and on, in the high seas of space, on the High Ground of space, in their millions . . . and quadrillions of humans atop a vaster pyramid of life residing in, and expanding in to interstellar space, Biblical-like (Noah's Ark-like) Space Arks. A future frontier survival and prosperity of Earth-life, else end in extinction (that, too, predicted, if the Ark, the Arks, of artificial gravity stations, ships, and colonies, never happen, or do happen soon enough. A new birth never happens, or does not happen soon enough).
The Biblical "Heaven," actually the Biblical "heavens," alludes to the Final Frontier of Star Trek, among other looks (Star Wars and so on....) to future histories in the infinite vastness, of every kind! beyond Earth.
More, realities twisted and expanded to legends. On obelisks in Egypt, telling ancient Egyptian histories, there was a massive invasion of Egypt by a sea people of the Mediterranean Sea, justly barely, finally, contained and defeated. The eventual legend: This sea opened for an escaping Hebrew slave horde and closed behind the horde upon the pursuing Egyptians, though the particular historical incident developed differently, changing in its characteristics and physics after retelling upon retelling, upon retelling. The "sea people" part disappeared in the story and the "sea" part of the story remained.
There is very good predictions in the Bible. 'Noah's Ark' for example, predicting rotating artificial gravity cloud city-state-like colonies in space in orbits of Earth-Moon LaGrange Points, Mars, Venus, the Asteroid Belt, Jupiter and Jupiter's major moons, Saturn and Saturn's major moons, and on, and on, in the high seas of space, on the High Ground of space, in their millions . . . and quadrillions of humans atop a vaster pyramid of life residing in, and expanding in to interstellar space, Biblical-like (Noah's Ark-like) Space Arks. A future frontier survival and prosperity of Earth-life, else end in extinction (that, too, predicted, if the Ark, the Arks, of artificial gravity stations, ships, and colonies, never happen, or do happen soon enough. A new birth never happens, or does not happen soon enough).
The Biblical "Heaven," actually the Biblical "heavens," alludes to the Final Frontier of Star Trek, among other looks (Star Wars and so on....) to future histories in the infinite vastness, of every kind! beyond Earth.
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DaveC426913
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Intuition is an antonym of knowledge.
"How do you know your mother is going to call?"
"I don't know. But my intuition tells me she will."
In other words "I'm sure she will call". Which is a belief, not knowledge.
And "I'm really, really, really sure she will call" is not knowledge either.
Nor, by the way, is "I know she will call."
This is the form of "know" you are employing, because that's what you described when I asked.
Even if you don't believe it yourself, we know that's what you mean.
None of this has anything to do with pretending to know God exists.
You have faith that God exists.
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Нет, Дэйв, у меня есть твёрдая уверенность и знание, что Бог существует.
То, что вы описали, никакого отношения к настоящей интуиции не имеет. Возможно, мы называем разные вещи одним и тем же словом.
Мартин, ты мне ничего нового не сказал. Обычно именно так люди и реагируют, пока не убедятся в обратном. Что невозможного ты тут увидел? Просто это обычные способности, которые, возможно, реже встречаются. Такие же, как умение писать картины, или сочинять музыку. Мой прадед часто развлекал друзей и соседей таким трюком: брал 4 карандаша, и писал одновременно 4 разные фразы, руками и ногами. А ты так не умеешь, у тебя нет таких способностей. Зато наверняка есть какие-нибудь другие. Все мы разные, и не нужно всех "равнять под одну гребёнку".
Да, Библию нельзя понимать буквально, особенно Ветхий Завет. Там почти всё образно. И с Ноевым Ковчегом, тоже. Смысл ещё и в том, что даже если оставить одного праведника и его потомков, то несмотря на хорошую наследственность и правильное воспитание, люди через некоторое время станут такими же грешными, как и были ранее. Невозможно создать правильное закрытое общество. Если бы большевики это знали и понимали, можно было бы избежать многих бед в своё время.
You can call it a penguin if you wish, but it's still light being dispersed in water droplets.