I think pretending ignorance doesn't really help your argument.
They're a far-right, anti-immigrant, white supremacist, white nationalist political party that openly sympathizes with Nazis and uses Nazi slogans.
This isn't difficult.
Congratulations America - you got the president you deserve
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I think pretending ignorance doesn't really help your argument.
They're a far-right, anti-immigrant, white supremacist, white nationalist political party that openly sympathizes with Nazis and uses Nazi slogans.
This isn't difficult.
Playing dumb on this really doesn't make you look good, Seattle. You don't know what a neo-Nazi believes and advocates for? Really?
Seattle
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I don't follow the neo-Nazi party in Germany. Do you? If so, why? I think Musk just wants stricter immigration policies. Is that not the case?
Gawdzilla Sama
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Look up "fascism".
Seattle was that kid in school who was always whining about having to learn stuff he was never gonna have to use in "real life".
Gawdzilla Sama
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One of the cousins wanted to start a business with the following model: If you hate school hire a substitute to take your classes.
He was vague on that would work, not surprising as he didn't finish the eight grade.
He was vague on that would work, not surprising as he didn't finish the eight grade.
War with Panama, anyone?
www.lloydslist.com
Apparently he thinks the Panama canal is a valuable US asset, doesn't like the "exorbitant" fees Panama is charging the US for it's use, so will demand it back unless fees are reduced.
Maybe this is from a chapter in his "Art of the Deal"? You know, the chapter where you ignore international laws, sovereignty, and simply threaten another country with armed conflict in order to get your way? If so, I missed that one.
The ironic part of this is that on the one hand the Turnip is concerned about the lack of neutrality of the canal (as required in the various treaties that handed it back to Panama) and the perceived involvement of China in it's management, and on the other the prices that the USA has to pay, which if they were treated differently than others would violate it's neutrality.
Further, the volume that Trump considers to be US is only "related to US trade", and the ships (the ones who pay the fees) are mostly from non-US shipping fleets.
So all-in-all just a case of Trump continuing to be the dangerous but ignorant baffoon he can't help but portray.
Trump threatens to try and regain control of Panama Canal
It prompts a sharp rebuke from Panama's president, who says "every square metre" of the canal belongs to his country.
www.bbc.co.uk
Trump to Panama: Reduce ‘ridiculous’ tolls or US will take back canal
President-elect Donald Trump appears to be under the false impression that the US can claw back the Panama Canal decades after giving it away. He bemoaned ‘exorbitant’ transit fees and alleged that China is involved in the canal’s management
www.lloydslist.com
Apparently he thinks the Panama canal is a valuable US asset, doesn't like the "exorbitant" fees Panama is charging the US for it's use, so will demand it back unless fees are reduced.
Maybe this is from a chapter in his "Art of the Deal"? You know, the chapter where you ignore international laws, sovereignty, and simply threaten another country with armed conflict in order to get your way? If so, I missed that one.
The ironic part of this is that on the one hand the Turnip is concerned about the lack of neutrality of the canal (as required in the various treaties that handed it back to Panama) and the perceived involvement of China in it's management, and on the other the prices that the USA has to pay, which if they were treated differently than others would violate it's neutrality.
Further, the volume that Trump considers to be US is only "related to US trade", and the ships (the ones who pay the fees) are mostly from non-US shipping fleets.
So all-in-all just a case of Trump continuing to be the dangerous but ignorant baffoon he can't help but portray.
Another thing I came across was someone who suggested Trump's aim with his financial policies is actually to deliberately trash the economy. Why? Because, so the argument goes, he is assuming that the response to a trashed economy will be quantative easing (QE).
What QE does, or at least the way it has tended to be implemented, is in a way that boosts values of assets and not productivity. So house prices, commercial property, and most importantly stock prices go up. This latter benefits the wealthy, while those at the bottom end... not so much. The ones who won't complain will be those with a reasonable stock portfolio.
So every time you hear Trump (or President Musk) pushing an economic policy that you think might actually cause the US economy to crash, think about why they're doing it? Is it just misguided folly, or is it because they don't actually care, knowing, ultimately, they will be the ones to vastly benefit from any QE that follows a crashed economy?
Worth thinking about, at least? YMMV.
What QE does, or at least the way it has tended to be implemented, is in a way that boosts values of assets and not productivity. So house prices, commercial property, and most importantly stock prices go up. This latter benefits the wealthy, while those at the bottom end... not so much. The ones who won't complain will be those with a reasonable stock portfolio.
So every time you hear Trump (or President Musk) pushing an economic policy that you think might actually cause the US economy to crash, think about why they're doing it? Is it just misguided folly, or is it because they don't actually care, knowing, ultimately, they will be the ones to vastly benefit from any QE that follows a crashed economy?
Worth thinking about, at least? YMMV.
Seattle
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Crashing the economy doesn't help the stock market. The equivalent of QE is going on all the time with the monetization of the debt. Whatever is done hurts those without assets. Whatever is done hurts those with assets less, which is why they have them.Another thing I came across was someone who suggested Trump's aim with his financial policies is actually to deliberately trash the economy. Why? Because, so the argument goes, he is assuming that the response to a trashed economy will be quantative easing (QE).
What QE does, or at least the way it has tended to be implemented, is in a way that boosts values of assets and not productivity. So house prices, commercial property, and most importantly stock prices go up. This latter benefits the wealthy, while those at the bottom end... not so much. The ones who won't complain will be those with a reasonable stock portfolio.
So every time you hear Trump (or President Musk) pushing an economic policy that you think might actually cause the US economy to crash, think about why they're doing it? Is it just misguided folly, or is it because they don't actually care, knowing, ultimately, they will be the ones to vastly benefit from any QE that follows a crashed economy?
Worth thinking about, at least? YMMV.
The problem is the debt though. The rest is taking one's eye off the ball.
Gawdzilla Sama
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Seattle:
Still pretending you don't know what the core values of a neo-Nazi are, I see. Still not a good look for you.
Immigration isn't a problem for the United States.
Still pretending you don't know what the core values of a neo-Nazi are, I see. Still not a good look for you.
I do not. Because it is a neo-Nazi party.
Musk is just another idiot with a megaphone. I don't care what he wants.
Immigration isn't a problem for the United States.
Indeed.
"Neo" - new"
"Nazi" - a far-right political party in Germany from 1930-1945 that was racist, nationalist, and anti-democratic. Nazis believed in a hierarchy of races, and targeted racial and immigrant groups as a way to unite Germany against an internal enemy.
Well, get ready for a very problematic four years then.
Seattle
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I'm ready. Trump will cut taxes, Harris would have been about spending. If Trump can cut any waste out of government, we'll be ahead. Seems like it should be pretty easy to do.
Seattle
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So, is Elon a racist who believes in a hierarchy of races?
Gawdzilla Sama
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National Socialism was the program of the far right party that eventually had Adolf Hitler as its head. What goes around comes around.
Trump will cut taxes AND increase spending. We know this because that is exactly what he did last time.
Do you think that will improve our fiscal situation?
Well, the fact that he apparently supports the policies of a German neo-Nazi far-right party doesn't bode well.
He publicly supports a group that believes that. As to what he personally believes - you'd have to ask him.
Seattle
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This is the primary reason you don't agree with him is it? Or would you not agree with him under any circumstances and therefore this is just noise?
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