can sciforumers rebuild civilization

Thank you, adam2314.

I had forgotten about canning and preserving. The problem is getting the seal air tight. Now we do not have rubber unless we are in a tropical climate. If we have rubber then we must also learn vulcanizing and once again have a need for sulfur. There is a simpler way. To use tallow as the seal on the outside of the lid. Messy but will work. Root cellars are another thing that comes to mind. For the preservation of roots and plants, such as the potato and onion. At "normal room temperature" these will attempt to grow and will be of no use once harvested. In the ground and out of the sun lowers the temperature and discourages growth. It is basically a hole in the ground with a door. They used to be dug under the house.

Prehaps adam2314 would like to explain how to can and preserve and what is needed. I have a rough idea, enough that it would work with experimentation. There is nothing that will replace experience in this though.
 
and now for the scribes:

I volunteer myself to write it all down, advances in metallurgy, alchemy, biology, agriculture, math, lanuguage, and of course philosopical hoopla.

I will spend my life hunting all the current members down and draining them of all they know, write it down and conglomarate it into something called The Book. That's my promise to you. imagine what humanity would be like now if some seven thousands years ago you had someone like me in Mesopotamia.
There would no longer be any useless gaps in what we know.
We would've been to the stars by now.

Can I call it The Book? Any objections? All in favor........


And this book I'll hand down the ages, so it circulates- uh, we have at least a printing press, don't we? how about cut and paste?- so The Book will have in it everything current.

So, can I can I be your scribe? What should I call myself?
 
wet

You will be happy to know that everything that I have mentioned has been strickly from memory. Nothing has been looked up for the convience of the thread.

sorry. the request was not directed towards you, but rather any future posters. (bad formatting)

all it takes is one individual with a decent amount of practical knowledge to get us started. whether we actually reach the level of tech previously attained should be a goal but is not actually a necessity. i think all should be happy that we actually got a village going. if thats all the progress we make, i still dont think it would be a bad thing. pretty good going actually

adam2314

This is where you learn to respect your elders sonny...
I can produce food and also know how to preserve food..
As do many of us who are considered past it these days ..

perhaps i string my words weirdly, but i actually was requesting folks with knowledge to step forward. i have nothing but respect for my elders:)

gendanken

So, can I can I be your scribe? What should I call myself?

whatever you want. i do not run this place, nor do i know who does. put forward your proposals and assume they will be adopted. i believe if they suck, objections will be posted. until then, feel free to develop your ideas for our benefit. charles fleming (see post on page 5) is already in the hills doing metallurgy stuff so you guys can hook up and discuss stuff
 
I counted all the people who posted on this thread 24 people total times 3=72 people. 72 people can only keep them selevs alive. We wont be able to do anything else but farm and build houses.

all this :m: growing isnt helping.

or we could make out a system wherer like 20 people grew food 20 built shelter and the rest did other little improvments and tryed to figuer out better ways to do things.
 
I figured the purpose of the thread would be that if there is no library, everything has to be done from memory. I would think for the purpose of this thread that spookz should decide what makes it and what does not. It is your thread.

As I had mentioned before, I will make little or no contributions to policital and government movements. In this context it just does not interest me.

Something that has not been mentioned other than touching on is what kind of climate are we dealing with? This has to be known so that both proper preparation is made and to get an idea of what will be available in the line of resources.

If in northern climate then maple syurp is available by tapping the maple trees. It is then cooked down to thicken it. If in southern climate then there is molassis from sugar cane. The juice is squeezed from the cane with a geared set of rollers set vertical and a long pole is attached for the purpose of a mule or horse powering it. Then, like the maple sap, it is cooked down.

Row boats or canoes should be able to be made. Either with steamed boards that can be bent to proper shape or with a bark kind of canoe. River travel is the most easiest in undeveloped countryside. The village should be located near a river both for future trade, travel, and food and water source. While wells and cisterns have been mentioned, there are times of no rain when water sources would become critical. It is always better to have a dependable source of water.

I have build and used may kinds of traps for animals when younger. I would be happy to discuss how these are done for everything but for the larger game. Those are dangerous and I would not have some one going out to try it and getting someone else hurt. Needless to say, I can make them, I just will not discuss that aspect here. But for trapping birds, small game, fish, and other such it is open to discourse.

While I forget the name, spear throwing force was increased with a simple stick with a notch in one end. I can also make a boomerang and used to be quite good with one when I was a kid. It takes hour after hour of practice to get it down but once you learn you can be quite deadly with one.
 
Gendanken, noble Keeper of The Book speaks

People of Leben

Request: from Gendanken, noble Keeper of The Book
Concerning: The current status of our humble commune, now for history ever to be known as the sires of a brave new world, survivors of global chaos, the people of Leben
Regards therein: your posts in Free Thoughts, "Can sciforumers build a new nation?"

Greetings:
We have been together these past few weeks discussing our troubled young nation and have come to bring many many things.
The Academy of Scribes wishes to know what you have contributed to her, so that in keeping shall your name and your gifts be sent through the ages.
 
I have decided to revamp this thread, for my own enjoyment. he he he he

Have we got irragation happening? And what about subsectioning off people into sections, that grow food, industrialise stuff, ect?
 
I to would like to contribute to this.

One thing that could be done it make a time capsule like secret temple where all the knowledge that we remember is put and then hidden for are descendents to discover when they are fully re-technologically developed.

Also a non-secret version of this information temple could be made for the village library:)
 
I like it. we got paper, lets make a library!
How about a theatre for something to do on a wednesday night? And potatoes for vodka?
 
For a early theatre we could make one of the old fashion Greek types of theatre. Where its actual people instead of a screne.
You know the type that are made so you can here a pin drop on stage. Not that the one we make would be as good as that but it would be similar.

Then if and when more modern day technology is made/found we could make a modernised theatre
 
My Sexy Blue Feet said:
And potatoes for vodka?
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I can see that those who know how to build a still will be valued members of any post-apocalypse society.
 
What, like peasants working in Afghanistan/Colombia? And not even drug suppliers are always welcome - Britain went to war with China to force them to buy opium, that's why Britain used to own Hong Kong.
 
We're talking about postapocalyptic world here, the presumption in these cases is that there is no strong government and there are next to no rules/laws.
 
I think our little village might put a little to much emphesis on drugs and alcohol.

If this is carried into the future our society would most likely have a few problems:

Lets say our village guard was a little tipsy when a grizzly bear came wandering around. It would not be a pretty sight.
 
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