Can Satan repent?

Do demons and devils have HOPE?

  • NO

    Votes: 2 66.7%
  • YES

    Votes: 1 33.3%
  • Maybe????? That would be nice wouldn't it??????

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    3

Dennis Tate

Banned
Perhaps it would be more logical to postulate that perhaps Satan has already repented and may be acting in the mind set of Stanley Milgram Ph. D..... but that would be another can of worms / Super Strings wouldn't it?

A related question would be ... which Satan?

..."but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Aza'zel."(Leviticus 16:10 RSV)

My guess is that the Azazel Satan will probably be the first major league fallen Watcher to repent....
and the results will be huge!

"And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?"
(Matthew 12)
 
The fact that Azazel and the Watchers were somewhat more humble......
after their sin was brought to their attention.....
was perhaps a good sign of positive events for later on?


http://reluctant-messenger.com/book_of_enoch.htm
[Chapter 13]
1 And Enoch went and said: 'Azazel, thou shalt have no peace: a severe sentence has gone forth 2 against thee to put thee in bonds: And thou shalt not have toleration nor request granted to thee, because of the unrighteousness which thou hast taught, and because of all the works of godlessness 3 and unrighteousness and sin which thou hast shown to men.' Then I went and spoke to them all 4 together, and they were all afraid, and fear and trembling seized them. And they besought me to draw up a petition for them that they might find forgiveness, and to read their petition in the presence 5 of the Lord of heaven. For from thenceforward they could not speak (with Him) nor lift up their 6 eyes to heaven for shame of their sins for which they had been condemned. Then I wrote out their petition, and the prayer in regard to their spirits and their deeds individually and in regard to their 7 requests that they should have forgiveness and length. And I went off and sat down at the waters of Dan, in the land of Dan, to the south of the west of Hermon: I read their petition till I fell 8 asleep. And behold a dream came to me, and visions fell down upon me, and I saw visions of chastisement, and a voice came bidding (me) I to tell it to the sons of heaven, and reprimand them. 9 And when I awaked, I came unto them, and they were all sitting gathered together, weeping in 10 'Abelsjail, which is between Lebanon and Seneser, with their faces covered. And I recounted before them all the visions which I had seen in sleep, and I began to speak the words of righteousness, and to reprimand the heavenly Watchers.
 
The possibility of Satan acting in the mind set of Stanley Milgram Ph. D. has off the scale implications for the next months, years and decades.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

The Milgram experiment(s) on obedience to authority figures was a series of social psychology experiments conducted by Yale University psychologist Stanley Milgram. They measured the willingness of study participants, men from a diverse range of occupations with varying levels of education, to obey an authority figure who instructed them to perform acts conflicting with their personal conscience. Participants were led to believe that they were assisting an unrelated experiment, in which they had to administer electric shocks to a "learner". These fake electric shocks gradually increased to levels that would have been fatal had they been real.[2]

The experiment found, unexpectedly, that a very high proportion of subjects would fully obey the instructions, albeit reluctantly. Milgram first described his research in a 1963 article in the Journal of Abnormal and Social Psychology[1] and later discussed his findings in greater depth in his 1974 book, Obedience to Authority: An Experimental View.[3]

The experiments began in July 1961, in the basement of Linsly-Chittenden Hall at Yale University,[4] three months after the start of the trial of German Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann in Jerusalem. Milgram devised his psychological study to explain the psychology of genocide and answer the popular contemporary question: "Could it be that Eichmann and his million accomplices in the Holocaust were just following orders? Could we call them all accomplices?"[5] The experiment was repeated many times around the globe, with fairly consistent results.[6]



WHY would an arrow with HOPE written on it knock a demon.......
out of the Battle of the Great Day of the LORD Almighty??????????



(Pastor Rick Joyner, The Final Quest):
A New Weapon

The arrows of Truth would rarely penetrate the vultures, but they hurt them enough to drive them back. Every time they were driven back some of us would climb to the next level. When we reached the level called "Galatians Two Twenty," we were above the altitude that the vultures could fly. At this level the sky above almost blinded us with its brightness and beauty. I felt peace like I had never felt it before.

Previously much of my fighting spirit had really been motivated out of as much hatred and disgust for the enemy as it had been for the sake of the kingdom, truth, and love for the prisoners. But it was on this level that I caught up to Faith, Hope, and Love, which before I had only been following at a distance. On this level I was almost overpowered by their glory. When I caught up to them they turned to me, and began repairing and shining my armor. Soon it was completely transformed and exuded the glory that was in them. When they touched my sword, great bolts of brilliant lightning began flashing from it. Love then said, "Those who reach this level are entrusted with the powers of the age to come, but I must teach you how to use them."

The "Galatians Two Twenty" level was so wide that there was no longer any danger of falling. There were also unlimited arrows with the name Hope written on them. We shot some of them down at the vultures, and these arrows killed them easily. About half who had reached this level kept shooting while the others began carrying these arrows down to those still on the lower levels.

The vultures kept coming in waves upon the levels below, but with each one there would be fewer than before. From "Galatians Two Twenty" we could hit any enemy in the army except the leaders themselves, who were still out of range. We decided not to use the arrows of Truth until we had destroyed all of the vultures, because the cloud of depression they created made the truth less effective. This took a very long time, but we never got tired.

Faith, Hope and Love, who had grown like our weapons with each level, were now so large that I knew people far beyond the battle area could see them. Their glory even radiated into the camp of prisoners who were still under a great cloud of vultures. The exhilaration continued to grow in all of us. I felt that being in this army, in this battle, had to be one of the greatest adventures of all time." (Rick Joyner, The Final Quest).
 
Maybe... just maybe.....
as soon as a demon or devil begins to have hope.....
maybe they cease to be devils??????????

https://vimeopro.com/vfndc/final-quest-the-call-the-harvest/video/414170858

TEXTVIDEO THE FINAL QUEST BY RICK JOYNER


Perhaps Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan is testing the polar opposite of this statement????????

Luke 7:47
"Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little."

Perhaps the higher invisible dimension where genuinely repentant devils and demons go......
may be a place of even more enthusiastic worship and praise than the heaven that some near death experiencers report??????
 
Maybe... just maybe.....
as soon as a demon or devil begins to have hope.....
maybe they cease to be devils??????????
On the contrary.

If demons are a spiritual representation of negative human character traits then acceptance of the demon's deceit only serves to encourage the demon inside that person to greater aspirations of power. Trump was a perfect example.

What is the evil demon argument?
In the evil demon argument Descartes proposes an entity who is capable of deceiving us to such a degree that we have reason to doubt the totality of what our senses tell us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_(thought_experiment)
 
Repent what?
It's not like he had to play all humble and penitent for the parole board - there isn't one. Just Ol' Fire&Brimstone, who can't countenance disobedience, no matter how wrong and unfair he is.
 
What was satan's relationship to god?
Dis Satan love god?
Was satan proud?

First, Satan is a creature (created by God).
Secondly, Satan was an Angel.
Satan is the Angel specialised in making spiritual material (He is "the dust").

Thirdly, Satan is a fallen Angel, so our material world depend on him and he depend on himself without the capacity of "elevating" to the heaven, nor having the capability of being alive (he is the dust eating his dust, solely).

Bibleref said:
Genesis 3:14, NIV: "So the LORD God said to the serpent, 'Because you have done this, 'Cursed are you above all livestock and all wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life."
https://www.bibleref.com/Genesis/3/Genesis-3-14.html

Now, in a more generaly pattern, perhaps we can see in Satan "the bad boy" used for the bad tasks by God, so no need of repent, he is usefull like he is.
You surely will not send a lamb to "kill the Wolf", you would send the Dog of God...
 
Thus God made Satan. Nice try, but IMO, does lack some moral quality.

Can we deduce that once God has created something, he has no longer control of how it evolves over time?

You surely will not send a lamb to "kill the Wolf", you would send the Dog of God..
God would send the Dog of God (Satan) to kill Satan (the Wolf)?

This spiritual thing gets very confusing. But of, course that was the intent to begin with.
 
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Can we deduce that once God has created something, he has no longer control of how it evolves over time?

Yes you can.
At my level, same with my crow.
I dont have total control on him : He bites my foot when i have shoes on because "he is very strong (yes he can ! :D)", but i dont kick him to death for that.
And he know that my foot is the enemy he can attack playfully !
He is very amusing.

God would send the Dog of God (Satan) to kill Satan (the Wolf)?
!)

No, "the wolf" is more likely to understand as "Fenrir" in celtic mythology.
Wikipedia said:
Fenrir (Old Norse: "fen-dweller")[3] or Fenrisúlfr (Old Norse: "Fenrir's wolf", often translated "Fenris-wolf"),[4] also referred to as Hróðvitnir ("fame-wolf")[5] and Vánagandr ("monster of the [River] Ván"),[6] or Vanargand, is a monstrous wolf in Norse mythology. Fenrir, together with Hel and the World Serpent, is a child of Loki and giantess Angrboða. He is attested in the Poetic Edda, compiled in the 13th century from earlier traditional sources, and the Prose Edda and Heimskringla, written in the 13th century by Snorri Sturluson. In both the Poetic Edda and Prose Edda, Fenrir is the father of the wolves Sköll and Hati Hróðvitnisson, is a son of Loki and is foretold to kill the god Odin during the events of Ragnarök, but will in turn be killed by Odin's son Víðarr.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenrir

Fenrir son of Loki (Satan) has probably something to do with Chronos.

Wikipedia said:
Loki (Old Norse: [ˈloki], Modern Icelandic: [ˈlɔːkɪ], often Anglicized as /ˈloʊki/) is a god in Norse mythology. Loki is in some sources the son of Fárbauti and Laufey, and the brother of Helblindi and Býleistr. Loki is married to Sigyn and they have a son, Narfi and/or Nari. By the jötunn Angrboða, Loki is the father of Hel, the wolf Fenrir, and the world serpent Jörmungandr. Loki, in the form of a mare, was impregnated by the stallion Svaðilfari and gave birth to the eight-legged horse Sleipnir. In addition, Loki is referred to as the father of Váli in Prose Edda, though this source also refers to Odin as the father of Váli twice, and Váli is found mentioned as a son of Loki only once.

Loki's relation with the gods varies by source; Loki sometimes assists the gods and sometimes behaves maliciously towards them. Loki is a shape shifter and in separate incidents appears in the form of a salmon, a mare, a fly, and possibly an elderly woman named Þökk (Old Norse 'thanks'). Loki's positive relations with the gods end with his role in engineering the death of the god Baldr, and eventually, Váli binds Loki with the entrails of one of his sons. In both the Poetic Edda and the Prose Edda, the goddess Skaði is responsible for placing a serpent above him while he is bound. The serpent drips venom from above him that Sigyn collects into a bowl; however, she must empty the bowl when it is full, and the venom that drips in the meantime causes Loki to writhe in pain, thereby causing earthquakes. With the onset of Ragnarök, Loki is foretold to slip free from his bonds and to fight against the gods among the forces of the jötnar, at which time he will encounter the god Heimdallr, and the two will slay each other.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loki
 
God is amused by human follies? Is that why he unleashes the most unspeakable horrors on everything!
If you dont agree and dont accept the sacrifice like the lamb, you can follow the dog.

And where does God come onto the scene?
Sure there is a mysterious goal, but i believe you should not know about it.

God unleashes Satan to kill Fenrir (son of Satan)?

Indirectly, sort of, yes, do you think it is unfair to do so ?
 
If you dont agree and dont accept the sacrifice like the lamb, you can follow the dog.
....:?......is there a moral message hidden in this?
Sure there is a mysterious goal, but i believe you should not know about it.
You believe I should not know something.? You believe you have that authority?
Indirectly, sort of, yes, do you think it is unfair to do so ?
God sends a father to kill his son? Where have I read that before?

Let me give you to a person who is an authority on the OT.

Basics. (warning crude language)

Advanced
 
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....:?......is there a moral message hidden in this?

Moral is human, will and justice is God.
Here, if you followed the dog, saving your "life" (material life), you loose your "dead" (material dead).
Only facts here, no moral.

You believe I should not know something.?

Yes.
You believe you have that authority?

To believe ?
Sure...

God sends a father to kill his son?

Yes, this is some "model", nothing new here.
What happens next, father really kill his son, Angel intervien or not, etc, this is not your business.

Where have I read that before?

The good question is : What do you want and what do you believe ?

OpenBible said:
Revelation 20:7-10
And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
https://www.openbible.info/topics/lake_of_fire

It is said : Fear God.
Because He is almighty (for real ... think about)
 
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