BB shockwave

[Fraggle Rocker]

What you might get in the instance of the birth of a universe is a sudden increase of energy (from what source is a different question) . . . .

As I understand it, there is an exact balance of particles and antiparticles in the universe (quarks, leptons, bosons, or whatever the architecture is now), so there was no "source." There was, and is, zero total mass and zero total energy.

This categorizes the Big Bang as simply a spatially and temporally local reversal of entropy--an increase in organization of the "nothing" that was already there--which is allowed by the Second Law of Thermodynamics, with no limit on size.

Organization has been steadily attenuating since then, and is presumably approaching zero-organization/100%-entropy asymptotically. Eventually there will be zero-everything again. It might take infinite time to reach that state, but entropy is patient.

 

[flat universe]

A standard shockwave is created when an explosive force meets a level of resistance in the form of an atmosphere.

In the case of the Big Bang "Theory"...

Good point. I have not considered all aspects of the theory and the resistance required to create the compression wave may be one of them. I am a bit out of my depth on this particular aspect but will take a stab at it. The BB shock wave (in a positively curved universe) would be made up of approximately 2/3rd of the mass of the universe. The mass would be compressed into an infinitely thin film, much like a black hole but instead of a point it is a surface in the shape of a spherical shell expanding outward. What is offering resistance to create the compression? I would propose that space itself, the BB shock wave literally defining space as it expands. The shock wave matter is in the universe and therefore part of it. We know that matter drags space, i.e. 'frame dragging'.

 

[flat universe]

As I understand it, there is an exact balance of particles and antiparticles in the universe (quarks, leptons, bosons, or whatever the architecture is now), so there was no "source." There was, and is, zero total mass and zero total energy.

This categorizes the Big Bang as ...

This may be so, but bear in mind that a big bang shock wave would actually be a point in a finite positively curved universe, a mother of all black holes (designated the black pole and for frame of reference located at the south pole). In such a model, space could grow after the big bang for a period of time and then reverses collapsing again to a point at the black pole.

 

[wellwisher]

The easiest way to create the universe is to start from a speed of light reference. This is the only reference that is the same in all inertial reference and therefore represents an absolute ground state. The speed of light is not relative. If you look at our universe there is a net conversion of mass to energy; back to the ground state.

What we also know is mass cannot travel at the speed of light. As such, for mass to initially form, beginning at a speed of light reference, some aspect of the C reference has to slow to less than C or there cannot be mass.

If we slow from C to less than C, so mass can appear; less than C constraint, and we then we use the mass equation of special relativity, in conjunction with E=MC2, there will be very substantial release of energy leading to mass condensation. This release of energy is like brake heat and may be the original source of dark energy, used for the BB expansion.

Since mass can't go at the speed of light, the condensed mass of the BB cannot simple reverse the process and accelerate directly to C. But since C is the ground state of the universe, the mass will need to find other indirect ways to return to C. This is the basis for all the forces and entropy; return to C anyway you can with these multiple options cooperating and conflicting at times.

All the forces, when potential lowers, give off energy back to the C reference. Gravity by causing space-tine to contract, helps local space time move in the direction of the C reference.

We currently use earth centric reference which was invented by the ancient religion of astrology. It is time for science to modernize and make use of the absolute reference due to its integrated simplicity.

In this model the shock wave is the dark energy brake heat.

 

[origin]

The easiest way to create the universe is to start from a speed of light reference. This is the only reference that is the same in all inertial reference and therefore represents an absolute ground state. The speed of light is not relative. If you look at our universe there is a net conversion of mass to energy; back to the ground state.

What we also know is mass cannot travel at the speed of light. As such, for mass to initially form, beginning at a speed of light reference, some aspect of the C reference has to slow to less than C or there cannot be mass.

If we slow from C to less than C, so mass can appear; less than C constraint, and we then we use the mass equation of special relativity, in conjunction with E=MC2, there will be very substantial release of energy leading to mass condensation. This release of energy is like brake heat and may be the original source of dark energy, used for the BB expansion.

Since mass can't go at the speed of light, the condensed mass of the BB cannot simple reverse the process and accelerate directly to C. But since C is the ground state of the universe, the mass will need to find other indirect ways to return to C. This is the basis for all the forces and entropy; return to C anyway you can with these multiple options cooperating and conflicting at times.

All the forces, when potential lowers, give off energy back to the C reference. Gravity by causing space-tine to contract, helps local space time move in the direction of the C reference.

We currently use earth centric reference which was invented by the ancient religion of astrology. It is time for science to modernize and make use of the absolute reference due to its integrated simplicity.

In this model the shock wave is the dark energy brake heat.

Gibberish in the science section, imagine my surprise...

 

[flat universe]

The easiest way to create the universe is to start from a speed of light reference. This is the only reference ...

In this model the shock wave is the dark energy brake heat.

In the model incorporating a shock wave in a positively curved universe in which the compression wave carries 2/3rd the mass of the universe, all matter would accelerate towards it. There would be no requirement for dark energy.

 

[flat universe]

Gibberish in the science section, imagine my surprise...

I could not follow Wellwisher's logic as well. If you are interested in a more detailed description of the big bang shock wave in a positively curved universe, the model is featured on the 'Alternatives' page on the website flatuniversesociety.com. This model appears to provide an alternative to dark energy as well as address a number of the recent anomalies that various missions have identified, which are also described in some detail on the same site.

 

[paddoboy]

Apparantly, during the inflation phase of the big bang, there was an instance when the inflation occured at superluminal speed. This, I believe would have created a shockwave in spacetime. Is it possible that this shockwave could still be travelling ahead of the leading edge of the material universe?

Ultra

A shockwave in space/time would be better referred to as gravitational radiation or waves I suggest.
As such the instant of the BB and evolution of space/time as we know it, would carry the signature of gravitational waves, and in fact is part of the search by LIGO.