Are we too sensitive and politically correct?

Is the west too much into sensitivity and political correctness?


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I saw Borat, a retardiculous movie - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443453/
And one of the reviewers struck a chord - The west in general and america in particular is too uptight and sensitive and politically correct.
Have you seen the movie?
Do you agree with the reviewer?
And additional thoughts?

Review -

Sacha Baron Cohen comes to America in the guise of Borat Sagdiyev and wreaks his own brand of Kazakhi havoc in this very very funny film.

In our age of uber-political correctness, "Borat" comes sweeping through like a brisk and refreshing wind, completely bounding over every cultural taboo we've erected around ourselves. Thus, no one is safe: Borat takes on Jews, blacks, gays, feminists, middle-Americans, religious fanatics, frat boys. The only weapon against the bumbling Borat is a sense of humour, which this movie shows most Americans painfully lack. Indeed, if there is any message to be had from "Borat" (and I'm not sure there is much of one, beyond its fascinating cultural experiments), it's that everyone needs to lighten up and not take themselves so seriously.

The image of Americans projected in this film varies from the heartwarming to the downright frightening. New Yorkers threaten Borat with physical violence when he approaches them on a subway. Feminists walk out on him when they find his views on women too much to tolerate. Folks out in the heartland commiserate with him over his hatred of gays and Jews; a gun shop owner even helps him pick out the best weapon for shooting Jewish people. A sweet Jewish couple give him a place to sleep, and bring him a homey meal (that is, before they turn into invading cockroaches). A group of manic Pentecosts help him find Jesus. An RV full of frat boys make complete asses of themselves by espousing their hopelessly ill-informed views on minorities in our country and the need to revert to slavery. The majority of people treat Borat in the condescending way of those who want to think of themselves as being culturally aware without really knowing anything at all about other cultures. These people become rude the second Borat offends their sense of propriety. On the other hand, the disenfranchised of America greet Borat with open arms, and we see a group of gays and a group of blacks interacting with him as if no cultural boundaries existed at all. The film's sweetest (and most unexpectedly so) moments come from Borat's befriending of a black prostitute.

Of course, this is a carefully crafted work of fiction, and Cohen only lets his audience see what he wants them to see. I would probably react much the same as many of the people in this film if this crazy-looking and sounding man appeared out of nowhere and began to antagonize me. But the movie does make Americans look like a bunch of awfully self-important, uptight stiffs, and I've been to enough places in this country and met enough people to realize that the way events play out in this film (even if they are manipulated or staged) probably come very close to the real thing.

Thank God for movies like "Borat." If nothing else, they remind us that our cultural boundaries only matter as much as we let them, and that all of the fears that govern political correctness are mostly ungrounded. After all, virtually every person in this film was offended at one point or another, and as far as I can tell, all of them lived to tell about it.

Ps. OMG at the naked conference scene!
 
I voted yes because I think we need to loosen up a little - be tolerant, humourous and call the crap went we see it - like new age therapies and televengalists.
 
I don't watch such crappy movies like Borat so I really don't want to give an evaluation about it. Yes the media does tend to go overboard about being politically correct but most reasonable human beings don't give a damn about that and just go on with life for the most part. I'd think that some things do change about certain attitudes that have existed that perhaps reverse some negative ways everyone deals with things but overall I'd think they don't really care that much.
 
Yes. It pissed me off.
Grow some f**king skin, everyone.
 
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Yes... being PC is the devil and should be abolished.
 
The number of words in the English language is : 1,013,913. This is the estimate by the Global Language Monitor for January 1, 2012.

http://www.languagemonitor.com/no-of-words/

Not that the above information is terribly evident in conversation with most people that one encounters, either on-line or in R.L.

While some might consider that 'political correctness' might have a restricting effect on language and vocabulary, in my own experience, it seems quite the opposite.

Those who rely on the expletive deletive as the foundation of their communication skills seem very often to repeat themselves. Rather tedious to the ear after a while.

If I have to listen (or read) someone's bad language, I would at least like to be entertained by one who has a broad repertoire, someone who can curse with a fervor that would make a Yukon Raven blush. :D

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scheherazade, PC doesn't always just refer to "foul language", but the general "oh my, i can't say this because it might offend SOMEBODY" that we live by today... how many phrases/sayings/common "words of wisdom" are no longer considered appropriate because it might insult some white/black/asian/hispanic/african/italian/european/man/woman/boy/girl/heterosexual/homosexual/bisexual/asexual/alien hominid/et al nowadays?

Seriously, words are just that - words. Curse words have no power unless YOU give them that power, much the same as magical spells, potions, and fairy dust... the point is, people need to grow a bit thicker skin and realize that not everyone in the world is going to like them or have the same mannerisms... hell, a great example of this - a common phrase in, say, Italian can be taken as an incredible insult in German... things like that, ya know? English suffers greatly because it is such a complex and complicated (not to mention muddled and twisted) language.
 
scheherazade, PC doesn't always just refer to "foul language", but the general "oh my, i can't say this because it might offend SOMEBODY" that we live by today... how many phrases/sayings/common "words of wisdom" are no longer considered appropriate because it might insult some white/black/asian/hispanic/african/italian/european/man/woman/boy/girl/heterosexual/homosexual/bisexual/asexual/alien hominid/et al nowadays?

Seriously, words are just that - words. Curse words have no power unless YOU give them that power, much the same as magical spells, potions, and fairy dust... the point is, people need to grow a bit thicker skin and realize that not everyone in the world is going to like them or have the same mannerisms... hell, a great example of this - a common phrase in, say, Italian can be taken as an incredible insult in German... things like that, ya know? English suffers greatly because it is such a complex and complicated (not to mention muddled and twisted) language.

I was being a bit 'tongue in cheek', Kittamaru, and I am well aware of what is entailed by the term 'politically correct', by nature of the work I do in advocacy, among other things.

I agree that people are taking interpretation to extremes these days, often in the hopes of winning some damages through litigation. I occasionally use slang vulgarity when in confusion or distress, and not in professional situations, but I do not find that it's repetitive and constant usage conveys meaning or content with any precision. :bugeye:

That's my personal preference from working with persons for whom proper language use is a profession, writers of policy and legislation as well as novelists. I well recognize that my view is not shared by all others.

Rather few others, or so it seems. :shrug:
 
Ah, I do apologize then - I didn't intend to seem as though I was pouncing on you. I confess, I actually talk quite differently than I type here (unless I am hanging out with some of my closest friends, in which case my language can range anywhere from what could be best called "quick-chat" to the ramblings of the utterly insane what would not make sense to anyone beyond my closest friends) - in many ways I strive to communicate in true "queens english" so to speak... slang and vulgarity doesn't have much place in professional communications in my humble opinion.
 
I don't think people are "too sensitive and politically correct."
In fact, I think people are lacking sensitivity and political skill.

I think the current climate of regulating everything and of people playing uninvited psychologists to others is stifling, and brings along many problems, notably psychological double binds, which tend to be quite stressul.


For example, a person can call you an idiot in front of a public or do other things to damage your reputation.
If you reply in kind, they can sue you, and it is going to be a hassle that will tend to damage your reputation even more than the original insult, even if you win.
If you sue them, it is going to be a hassle that will tend to damage your reputation even more than the original insult, even if you win.


The way I see it, the solution is to become so politically savvy to be able to beat down any offense in such a manner that the offending party does not have a case against you and the public takes your side.
 
scheherazade, PC doesn't always just refer to "foul language", but the general "oh my, i can't say this because it might offend SOMEBODY" that we live by today... how many phrases/sayings/common "words of wisdom" are no longer considered appropriate because it might insult some white/black/asian/hispanic/african/italian/european/man/woman/boy/girl/heterosexual/homosexual/bisexual/asexual/alien hominid/et al nowadays?

I don't think this is the case at all. It is certainly what it is often presented as, but I don't think it is a correct or deep enough interpretation of the motivation for PC.

I don't think PC is about not offending others as such; I think it is about not bringing up double binds for oneself and others.
Double binds are stressful no-win situations that can be overcome only by superior intelligence or superior resources, both of which are not easy to obtain.
When people are at least intuitively aware of that, they try to avoid double binds.


Seriously, words are just that - words.

You'll probably just have to wait for the first slander suit against yourself then and see what that does to your reputation ...


Curse words have no power unless YOU give them that power, much the same as magical spells, potions, and fairy dust... the point is, people need to grow a bit thicker skin and realize that not everyone in the world is going to like them or have the same mannerisms... hell, a great example of this - a common phrase in, say, Italian can be taken as an incredible insult in German... things like that, ya know? English suffers greatly because it is such a complex and complicated (not to mention muddled and twisted) language.

In the same manner, one could tell you to grow a thicker skin and not take issue with other people having a skin that is "too thin."
 
The whole sensitive and correct issue about USians was created in the US, decades ago, to propagandize the Clinton Presidency Progressive Movement, and had "correcting motives" itself.

"sensitive" was to evoke brainwashing thoughts of "Democrats are weak" on offense and defense.
"correct" was to evoke brainwashing thoughts of "Democrats are the real brainwashers"

"Non-US" analysis of where the US's "non-political" mindset is currently trending, is confused and mistranslated. I believe it has been this way for awhile now, even with the close proximity the internet has given the rest of the world to the US citizenry thought processes.
 
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