Are there benefits to concentration?

[geordief]

Obviously there are but are there the same kinds of benefits that are touted as raising from activities such as "mindfulness"

It crossed my my as ,recovering from a sprained ankle my few physical activities entail keeping an eagle eye on where I place my left leg when moving along.

Should I expect some kind of psychological benefit from this if I am fortunate enough to avoid a painful mishap and roll my ankle in its still sensitive condition?

(Complete rest is ,I think not advised after a few days nor to be welcomed or tolerated)

 

[DaveC426913]

(Complete rest is ,I think not advised after a few days nor to be welcomed or tolerated)

RICE: Rest, Ice, Compress, Elevate

 

[geordief]

RICE: Rest, Ice, Compress, Elevate

You have to get moving at some point.You don't wait for it to feel completely normal to start on with things surely.

Even in the first days you have to move a little (going to bed,going to the toilet having meals etc)

I noticed that my calf muscle also got very tight.Thank god I had no cramps as that would have been rotten and held up recovery no
doubt.

Edit: not sure there is actually any therapeutic value to icing in that it doesn't speed up recovery,I have been hearing.

 

[DaveC426913]

Edit: not sure there is actually any therapeutic value to icing in that it doesn't speed up recovery,I have been hearing.

Icing reduces swelling and inflammation, both of which reduce blood flow, which retards healing.

 

[geordief]

Icing reduces swelling and inflammation, both of which reduce blood flow, which retards healing

Does the same apply to the compression ankle sock that I have been wearing all along?

I knew that nurofen etc was advised against in the first 3 days or so.

 

[DaveC426913]

Does the same apply to the compression ankle sock that I have been wearing all along?
I knew that nurofen etc was advised against in the first 3 days or so.

You want to do them in moderation.
Heat for a short while, ice for a short while.
Compression for a while but take it off every night.

I don't want to get too detailed - just enough to convince you to look into it proper-like.

 

[geordief]

You want to do them in moderation.
Heat for a short while, ice for a short while.
Compression for a while but take it off every night

I do take it off at night.

To tell you something a bit weird,our neighbour also did her ankle in last week and I was due to drive her in to the doctor's the following morning.

That morning, an hour or two before she had to go in the same thing happened to me

I drove her in but had to hide my injury because I didn't want the attention!!

Actually it only got properly bad after I got home and today was the first day I was able to walk the dog(I couldn't avoid doing the shopping,and trying to keep sane)

 

[DaveC426913]

I drove her in but had to hide my injury because I didn't want the attention!!

I don't know how your neighbor would believe you after that. "I'm sorry, I can't drive you to the doctor for your sprained ankle but, you see, ah, I have to go to the doctor for my sprained ankle. eh Heh."

 

[Michael 345]

Icing reduces swelling and inflammation, both of which reduce blood flow, which retards healing.

Not really. Most of swelling comes in the form of plasma outside of cells and blood vessels

Said swelling constricts the already limited bore of the capillaries lowering their ability to circulate whole blood (much thicker than plasma)

Alternating immersion of the part, or the application of, cold / warm cloth, water can cause dilation / compression of capillaries helping kick start blood flow to the region

 

[Michael 345]

Icing reduces swelling and inflammation, both of which reduce blood flow, which retards healing.

Not really. Most of swelling comes in the form of plasma outside of cells and blood vessels

Said swelling constricts the already limited bore of the capillaries lowering their ability to circulate whole blood (much thicker than plasma

Alternating immersion of the part, or the application of, cold / warm soaking wet cloth, water can cause dilation / compression of capillaries helping kick start blood flow to the region

 

[DaveC426913]

Not really. Most of swelling comes in the form of plasma outside of cells and blood vessels

Said swelling constricts the already limited bore of the capillaries lowering their ability to circulate whole blood (much thicker than plasma)

Alternating immersion of the part, or the application of, cold / warm cloth, water can cause dilation / compression of capillaries helping kick start blood flow to the region

Isn't that what I said?

 

[Michael 345]

Icing reduces swelling and inflammation, both of which reduce blood flow, which retards healing

Isn't that what I said?

YES a few posts later

You want to do them in moderation.
Heat for a short while, ice for a short while.
Compression for a while but take it off every night.

I don't want to get too detailed - just enough to convince you to look into it proper-like.

Sorry I missed

Lots going on at the moment

Trying to juggle multiple problems with 3 girls in Bali as well as house problems here

Better perhaps stay out Sciforums for a while

See what next week brings

Again sorry

 

[Michael 345]

Stuff up

 

[river]

Obviously there are but are there the same kinds of benefits that are touted as raising from activities such as "mindfulness"

It crossed my my as ,recovering from a sprained ankle my few physical activities entail keeping an eagle eye on where I place my left leg when moving along.

Should I expect some kind of psychological benefit from this if I am fortunate enough to avoid a painful mishap and roll my ankle in its still sensitive condition?

(Complete rest is ,I think not advised after a few days nor to be welcomed or tolerated)

To your last statement , Agreed . Stiffness in one direction , is caused by one movement being predominate over another . Therefore the muscles are out of sync . , because of strength. One side is stronger than the other , imblance .

 

[river]

Are there benefits to concentration of course . Its obvious .

There are problems with concentration as well . Disconnection from the world around you .

 

[Wizard of Whatever]

Obviously there are but are there the same kinds of benefits that are touted as raising from activities such as "mindfulness"

It crossed my my as ,recovering from a sprained ankle my few physical activities entail keeping an eagle eye on where I place my left leg when moving along.

Should I expect some kind of psychological benefit from this if I am fortunate enough to avoid a painful mishap and roll my ankle in its still sensitive condition?

(Complete rest is ,I think not advised after a few days nor to be welcomed or tolerated)

The concentration you mention can be the beginning of a more aware state.
It seems to me that the result of concentration is more "mindfulness" as concentration is at first an active form of "mindfulness".

 

[Luchito]

By experience with my body, I can't concentrate with pain in progress.

I have had several situations where pain and inflammation together have caused me even going to the hospital more than once.

I have learned that "natural remedies" like eating cherries, ice, massages and so forth do some benefits, however sometimes the inflammation has to go "now", otherwise can cause bigger problems.

Let's say yo have a gout attack, and you choose the natural remedies. Those will help you but will take longer than expected, and the inflammation can cause damage to the nerves and or joints. Then. it is better to have the medicines prescribed by a doctor and make the inflammation going away faster.

Concentration might cause you to ignore the pain but won't help to lower the inflammation and heal faster the injury.

Physical pain makes you age faster because your body will use more of its potential without obtaining any benefit. And no, you won't find this conclusion from any source but here, right now.

But doctors know that eradicating physical pain is always the best measure to be taken with patients.

Of course, some health conditions will impede some patients to take anti-inflammatory medicine, and will be decision of the doctor and patient what risk to take or not to take.

With small or soft injuries, like twisting the ankle but no big deal, then natural remedies are recommended, but pain 7,8, 9 or 10, surely to take prescribed medicine will be a better choice.

 

[Wizard of Whatever]

By experience with my body, I can't concentrate with pain in progress.

I have had several situations where pain and inflammation together have caused me even going to the hospital more than once.

I have learned that "natural remedies" like eating cherries, ice, massages and so forth do some benefits, however sometimes the inflammation has to go "now", otherwise can cause bigger problems.

Let's say yo have a gout attack, and you choose the natural remedies. Those will help you but will take longer than expected, and the inflammation can cause damage to the nerves and or joints. Then. it is better to have the medicines prescribed by a doctor and make the inflammation going away faster.

Concentration might cause you to ignore the pain but won't help to lower the inflammation and heal faster the injury.

Physical pain makes you age faster because your body will use more of its potential without obtaining any benefit. And no, you won't find this conclusion from any source but here, right now.

But doctors know that eradicating physical pain is always the best measure to be taken with patients.

Of course, some health conditions will impede some patients to take anti-inflammatory medicine, and will be decision of the doctor and patient what risk to take or not to take.

With small or soft injuries, like twisting the ankle but no big deal, then natural remedies are recommended, but pain 7,8, 9 or 10, surely to take prescribed medicine will be a better choice.

Opiates, natural and synthetic work fine.