America
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Land of the Free, Home of the Brave 
Yes they do. There are tons of people trying to get into America.
Imagine living in a country where standards are so low that the power constantly goes out.
There is no place you can go that will support your family.
There is no place you can go that will allow you to earn money to support your family.
America is a survival of the fittest country.
The fittest are those who are able to move upwards from no finances to lots of finances.
As bad as that is, this process is easier in America than it is in any other country on the planet.
A person starting on the bottom will be able to move upwards with less effort. (Not that it doesn't take a ton of effort. It still does because of the way it is set up.
This is not the land of the free. It can be closer to it if you are fit.
People at the bottom who do not move upwards financially still have a better standard of living in America than most other countries.
It is virtually impossible to find somebody in America that does not have electricity or indoor plumbing. Growing up in America, I have never heard of hand washing clothes. I thought that a washing machine was the only way to wash clothes until I travelled abroad.
I found that in many places, most everybody hand washes their clothes, and washing machines are rare.
The bottom lion is that there are many ways that America is way shittier than other countries. There are many ways America serves your individual needs better than other countries.
When you weigh the shittyness of America against the services you are getting in America, you decied if it is worth living here over where you are presently living.
Imagine living in a country where standards are so low that the power constantly goes out.
There is no place you can go that will support your family.
There is no place you can go that will allow you to earn money to support your family.
America is a survival of the fittest country.
The fittest are those who are able to move upwards from no finances to lots of finances.
As bad as that is, this process is easier in America than it is in any other country on the planet.
A person starting on the bottom will be able to move upwards with less effort. (Not that it doesn't take a ton of effort. It still does because of the way it is set up.
This is not the land of the free. It can be closer to it if you are fit.
People at the bottom who do not move upwards financially still have a better standard of living in America than most other countries.
It is virtually impossible to find somebody in America that does not have electricity or indoor plumbing. Growing up in America, I have never heard of hand washing clothes. I thought that a washing machine was the only way to wash clothes until I travelled abroad.
I found that in many places, most everybody hand washes their clothes, and washing machines are rare.
The bottom lion is that there are many ways that America is way shittier than other countries. There are many ways America serves your individual needs better than other countries.
When you weigh the shittyness of America against the services you are getting in America, you decied if it is worth living here over where you are presently living.
We have a rapidly growing mexican population here in Alabama. When I used to work at a grocery store, they would send money orders to their families in Mexico. I asked one day what you could get with $400 American money. The man said a brand new car... I think that could be a reason to live in America. For them at least.
Some idiot made a guide book for mexicans, to help them cross the border. All imigrants like that are takign awya our kob aportunaties. they reproduce in order to stay here if they get cought. If the kid was born here, then he or she is a citizen. And US is so nice, they don't want to live a kid without parent. And belief me if the goverment wanted, they wold have found all of the people who are here illegally faster then it takes to turn on TV.Gondolin said:
America hires mexican seasonal farm slaves because no American in their right mind would do these shit jobs for the amount that the farm slaves are getting.
That's because America is set up in away that cannot afford to pay people well to do crap labor. If you give a slave to much especially in terms of education, guess what? No more slave.
Another example is waiters. Restaurants are allowed to pay waiters way less than minimum wage. That's because if waiters are paid minimum wage, restaurants would not make enough profit to stay alive. Therefore, no more restaurants. Having no restaurants to America is equivalent to the punishment of bruning in hell.
Dear Marta666,
YOU WROTE: "All imigrants like that are takign awya our kob aportunaties."
In my city alone, I see streets that need to be cleaned roads that need to be constructed and repaired to accomodate all the traffic. I see nothing but jobs. I see sick people that need to be treated, and children that need to be educated. Those are just a few examples.
In order to fix all these problems, somebody must do the 'JOB'. Somebody needs to clean the environment, fix the roads, treat the sick, teach the kids, and the list goes on. Do we have enough people doing these jobs? NO! Why? Because we are too busy doing other jobs. Selling useless products door to door, making movies, developing video games, manufacturing more cars, and the list goes on.
After all, why address the needs of treating the sick when there are more important needs like developing better vidoe games?
It sounds like you don't want immigrants to cross the border.
From what I am getting out of your post, immigrants are taking jobs away from Americans.
In other words, you would rather do the jobs yourself than let somebody else do it for you.
What job opportunities are they taking away?
Who decides who has the right to whatever so called 'job opportunities' you are refering to?
Who gave America ownership of this land so that they can decide who and who may not reside within the borders?
Was it Jesus?
You claim the government can find all of these horrible people anytime they wanted to, and send them back to their lives of misfortune. After all, supporting them is cramping our standard of living.
How would the government find all these people? Is the government really that intelligent?
Are they intelligent enough to think of better ways to address the social problems and all the jobs that need to be done?
I suppose you believe that if we allow anybody to come into America, we will have more problems? That is after all what seems to be your personality type.
More people coming to America does not mean a greater variety of life, more people to address issues, more progressive ideas, more excitement, greater opportunity for everybody, more beautiful cleaner environment, a vast lucrative high standard of living and world expansion, and the list goes on, and the list goes on.
All it means to you is probably 'over population' less jobs, more problems, and more pollution.
That's because America is set up in away that cannot afford to pay people well to do crap labor. If you give a slave to much especially in terms of education, guess what? No more slave.
Another example is waiters. Restaurants are allowed to pay waiters way less than minimum wage. That's because if waiters are paid minimum wage, restaurants would not make enough profit to stay alive. Therefore, no more restaurants. Having no restaurants to America is equivalent to the punishment of bruning in hell.
Dear Marta666,
YOU WROTE: "All imigrants like that are takign awya our kob aportunaties."
In my city alone, I see streets that need to be cleaned roads that need to be constructed and repaired to accomodate all the traffic. I see nothing but jobs. I see sick people that need to be treated, and children that need to be educated. Those are just a few examples.
In order to fix all these problems, somebody must do the 'JOB'. Somebody needs to clean the environment, fix the roads, treat the sick, teach the kids, and the list goes on. Do we have enough people doing these jobs? NO! Why? Because we are too busy doing other jobs. Selling useless products door to door, making movies, developing video games, manufacturing more cars, and the list goes on.
After all, why address the needs of treating the sick when there are more important needs like developing better vidoe games?
It sounds like you don't want immigrants to cross the border.
From what I am getting out of your post, immigrants are taking jobs away from Americans.
In other words, you would rather do the jobs yourself than let somebody else do it for you.
What job opportunities are they taking away?
Who decides who has the right to whatever so called 'job opportunities' you are refering to?
Who gave America ownership of this land so that they can decide who and who may not reside within the borders?
Was it Jesus?
You claim the government can find all of these horrible people anytime they wanted to, and send them back to their lives of misfortune. After all, supporting them is cramping our standard of living.
How would the government find all these people? Is the government really that intelligent?
Are they intelligent enough to think of better ways to address the social problems and all the jobs that need to be done?
I suppose you believe that if we allow anybody to come into America, we will have more problems? That is after all what seems to be your personality type.
More people coming to America does not mean a greater variety of life, more people to address issues, more progressive ideas, more excitement, greater opportunity for everybody, more beautiful cleaner environment, a vast lucrative high standard of living and world expansion, and the list goes on, and the list goes on.
All it means to you is probably 'over population' less jobs, more problems, and more pollution.
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Born and raised in the US.
I've seen the worst of Mexico and Southeast Asia. I've helped to support Vietnamese boat people and my family sponsored refugees from WWII Europe.
I've also seen the ingratitude of a German exchange student I sponsored half a dozen years ago.
Two reasons for coming to the US:Two reasons for not coming to the US:
I've seen the worst of Mexico and Southeast Asia. I've helped to support Vietnamese boat people and my family sponsored refugees from WWII Europe.
I've also seen the ingratitude of a German exchange student I sponsored half a dozen years ago.
Two reasons for coming to the US:
- Opportunity
- Political freedom
- Hard work
- Self responsibility
No. Streets here are made out of slime and opportunity. I understand why people from troubled countries come here. I don't understand why Europeans from more or less stable countries come here. You're young. Wait a few years, then ask yourself: what are you doing in America that you couldn't do in your fatherland if you stayed there? For now, hold your breath and if you want go back to where you came from. European air is certainly better.
For me, heheh, coming to America completely changed my life. I would not make the same choices if I stayed; the same opportunities and financial comforts for higher education and other things simply aren't there in the country from which I came.
Cool Skill:
Being oppressed.
the capitalist being a pig.
Damn the Americans, its hard being a colored in this place.
They system hates me
Woe is me, I get conned by the telephone, television, payroll, computer, sanitation departments because I'm a colored.
The police are pre-emptive and stick me in jail because I'm a colored
I got fired because I’m a colored, can’t enter Yale because I’m a colored.
Sound familiar?
Why do people globally malign this country and yet die to be here?
Because at the root, we're all selfish, greedy "capitalists" economically programmed to want what is best for himself.
We only soften these 'ugly truths' with the altruism of religion and “compassion" or by distorting our useless ineptitude into complaints of being victimized.
You know, by the system.
Yes, and these people spend all that free time in America posting threads about:
Being oppressed.
the capitalist being a pig.
Damn the Americans, its hard being a colored in this place.
They system hates me
Woe is me, I get conned by the telephone, television, payroll, computer, sanitation departments because I'm a colored.
The police are pre-emptive and stick me in jail because I'm a colored
I got fired because I’m a colored, can’t enter Yale because I’m a colored.
Sound familiar?
Why do people globally malign this country and yet die to be here?
Because at the root, we're all selfish, greedy "capitalists" economically programmed to want what is best for himself.
We only soften these 'ugly truths' with the altruism of religion and “compassion" or by distorting our useless ineptitude into complaints of being victimized.
You know, by the system.
You claim that people who discuss being oppressed and taken advantage of by large companies are upset because deep down inside they are greedy capitalists.
Why is it necessary to be a greedy capitalist to acknowledge the fact that you are being oppressed and constantly victimized by those who should be serving you?
Why is it necessary to be a greedy capitalist to acknowledge the fact that you are being oppressed and constantly victimized by those who should be serving you?
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the fact that your secret police can gain access to your home and all your posessions with absolutely no grounds at all in order to gain(plant) enough evidence to send you off to guintanemo prison where you serve a life sentence with daily torture routines and no trial to even prove you did anything
all for things as simple as planning to distrupt your dictators holiday by protesting
Yes, there is little use of political freedom if there is such a limited civil freedom which in itself limits political freedom.
Anyways, the USA has been going to a police state country for some time now.
marv, I'm not as young as I wish to be and there were many good things in the USSR together with the many quite awfully bad things. Same as everywhere (I guess).
p.s. Don't know about other latvians, people are stupid everywhere (now I assume).
Anyways, the USA has been going to a police state country for some time now.
marv, I'm not as young as I wish to be and there were many good things in the USSR together with the many quite awfully bad things. Same as everywhere (I guess).
p.s. Don't know about other latvians, people are stupid everywhere (now I assume).
Well $400 a week isn't too bad. That's around $10 an hour after taxes. Yeah, it's not super wonderful, but that's what most jobs pay anyways.
Actually waiters and bartenders get paid so low because of the money they make it tips. Some places offer a nice hourly wage but you have to share the tips with the company, or you get paid below minimum wage but you get to keep all your tips. Keeping the tips is more profitable. Certain jobs like that is where it's better to have a job that offers more hours per day than dollars per hour as you'll make more money that way.
Yeah right, the Patriot Act does nothing of the sort. It helps our country! Nobody would ever allow such a thing here in America! We have nothing to fear from our government which is why we should get rid of our right to bear arms. Guns are bad. You people are just too paranoid! (sarcasm)
- N
If Mexican labor was cut off, then we'd either outsource our food production to Mexico or more likely we'd buy/develop better farm equipment.
The same goes for factory labor.
As to domestic labor, those are jobs that they're taking from kids of all people. There was a time not long ago when kids mowed the lawn and served you burgers... So I don't see why they can't do it again... and if anything it's better for kids to start out with humble jobs like that.
So why come to America? We're an exciting country to belong to... we're a very stable country to belong to... we're very easy to immigrate to...
I can't think of any serious reason why you'd not come to the US in favor of another country. Especially if you're educated and motivated... if you're without any skill and lazy, then we're a good place to subsist in... but you'll never live well.
The same goes for factory labor.
As to domestic labor, those are jobs that they're taking from kids of all people. There was a time not long ago when kids mowed the lawn and served you burgers... So I don't see why they can't do it again... and if anything it's better for kids to start out with humble jobs like that.
So why come to America? We're an exciting country to belong to... we're a very stable country to belong to... we're very easy to immigrate to...
I can't think of any serious reason why you'd not come to the US in favor of another country. Especially if you're educated and motivated... if you're without any skill and lazy, then we're a good place to subsist in... but you'll never live well.
Neildo said:
Absolutely correct I worked as a bartender and waiter for years (while in school) because it was fast money. My best night bartending (at a beer and shot bar with live music) I made $330 in tips in 7 hours a normal night I made around $100 cash, no taxes. Oh poor student who got paid below minimum wage