Note to all (myself included) Please keep the conversation on track, RE the alpha rules (linked to in the original post). This thread is "grandfathered" in, in some sense. While I believe that zanket has been refuted long ago, I don't think I can (in good conscience) move these threads to Pseudoscience or Cesspool. The crux of the issue, as I remember it, is zanket's refusal to allow an experiment of infinite accuracy to be carried out. Also (I think) he ignores the causal structure of space-time, which is important. Of course, this is exactly how all measurements are made in gendanken experiments. I will also note that I have discussed this experiment with other grad students (whose intuition I trust more than my own, when it comes to black holes), and we came to the same conclusion regarding the breaking of the rope. (This was actually about a month ago, and I had completely forgotten these threads.) This is a well-known thought experiment (apparently), with a well-known resolution. However, I will lock this thread, and ask that all future posts be made in the ``v3'' version.