All homosexuals should be stoned to death, says Muslim preacher

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  1. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

    “ Originally Posted by StrangerInAStrangeLa
    All homosexuals should face stoning to death, a Muslim preacher of hate declared yesterday. ”

    And you drive them craaaaaaazy?
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  3. SkinWalker Archaeology / Anthropology Moderator

    That's complete and utter bullshit which appears rendered from a bigoted and undereducated point of view.

    Either your reading and comprehension with the English language challenged or you're willfully obfuscating or distorting what was said (in other words, you're either ignorant or a liar).

    A "muslim" is a one who follows the islamic superstition or an islamic cult. That person can be black, white, brown, etc. If you suggest otherwise, then perhaps you are a racist.

    In addition, you'll need to quote the instance where someone stated that members of a muslim cult were Stone/Bronze age. The doctrine (along with the judeo-christian doctrines) is Bronze and Iron Age.

    Perhaps your bigotry and hatred for the godless has caused your ignorance or deception?
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  5. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member


    He hates himself???
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  7. codanblad a love of bridges Registered Senior Member

    isn't DiamondHearts ESL? i'm unsure. i think its obvious what he means by racism, he means hatred aimed at a particular group. you guys have made a storm in a teacup over this cos you're all so overexcited.
  8. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member


    Regardless, he doesn't know the definition & won't/can't admit it.
  9. DiamondHearts Registered Senior Member

    It is popular to further the view that Muslims are sub-human because it supports the American invasions of the sovereign nations of Afghanistan and Iraq. All those who are duped by these lies, without any willingness to learn the facts, are furthering fabrications and stereotypes to fill a deeper moral void.

    For all the complaints against Christian bigotry against Atheists, Atheists are the most intolerant, illogical, and violent beings on the planet. Who else would encourage the bombing of Muslim holy city Makkah, and of calling Muslims 'men living in caves with ugly women' (this can be found in the thread 'God= Allah is the true one and only God' [I forget the actual name])?

    I believe, along with the Muslims of the world, that the Atheists are far more of a threat than radical Christians will ever be to us. It is these people who support and indeed build Zionism (Atheist Jews), Atheists who are willing to kill people for material and financial wealth, it were Atheist and Darwinism minded people who kidnapped our brothers form Africa and brought them to America as slaves. The first abolitionists in the US were the Quakers, a Christian sect which risked their lives to free Africans from bondage. Not only that, the king of Morocco, a Muslim, and the Barbary pirates attacked slave ships and brought their inhabitants back to their homelands. Often, former slaves would join the pirates and help them in attacking slave ships. The king of Morocco personally accepted slaves whom the Europeans had doubt, and he also bought thousands of slaves and paid for their return to their homelands.

    Atheists wish to propagate the claims that religion is the source of all the problems of the world. You have no idea that in fact Atheism, materialism, and greed are the primary sources of the problems of this world. Why do you think the third world nations of the world are predominantly religious and oppose Atheism, while it is the West which primarily supports and nurtures Atheism. You view Atheism as breaking the shackles of religion and control, but you don't know that in fact you are under the control of hatred and bigotry against the rest of the people of the world. Look how the Atheists in this forum defend the occupation of the lands of free and independent people of the Middle East and other regions. The end result of materialism, capitalism, and social anarchy is Atheism. Atheism is a black hole for all of human civilization, a deep hole filled to the brink with hatred, violence, and anger at his fellow man. There will be no peace as long as Atheism thrives in the West. More and more free nations shall be subjugated for the unending human greed and moral vacuum which Atheism cultivates in the Western mind.
  10. Enmos Valued Senior Member

    Huh.. I really think it was a Christian nation that bombed those sites.
    Can the hate speech dude.
  11. swarm Registered Senior Member

    Hey! Leave the sub humans out of this. Apes and monkeys don't deserve this sort of abuse. Only humans are crazy enough to be religious.

    Because atheists stone people to wait that's muslims.
    Atheists mutilate that's muslims.
    Well atheists chop off muslims.
    Oh right atheists blow themselves up killing innocent bystanders...oops no that's muslims.

    How is it atheists are the most intolerant, illogical, and violent beings on the planet again?

    Oh that's right. They point out that allah is a lie.
  12. DiamondHearts Registered Senior Member

    The Western power struggle supports and nurtures Atheism and materialism. This same Western power struggle has caused immeasurable grief and oppression to the third world nations of the world. The West is not Christian, it is Atheist. It is Christian in name only.

    The chaos and anarchy present in Afghanistan and Iraq is the direct result of Western meddling to keep the people disuniting, killing each other, and hence more vulnerable to exploitation by Western corporations and governments. Atheists have done this, it is they which still call Muslims as stone-aged and bronze-aged to justify killing us.

    How is it that comments such as this is classified as freedom of speech, while those who claim Muslims mutilate women, kill innocents, ban paper bags, etc. is allowed? The point of my post is to show that Atheists, even though they pride themselves with being enlightened are actually the final products of a system which denies man his natural inclination to God and which oppresses free people of the world for materialistic benefits, regardless of the cost in human suffering.

    Not all Atheists are of course oppressors, but the system of Western imperialistic oppression originates with Atheism, in the doctrines of social Darwinism, rejection of God, denial of humanity to fellow men, and materialistic exploitation of the third world. A doctrine which teaches man to strive for this life, regardless of the effects to others, will inevitably lead to the horrendous exploitation of human life throughout the world that we see today.

    If there is no Divine accountability, what stops Atheist elite of the West from exploiting their own populations and from oppressing and subjugating other free people throughout the world?
  13. Bells Staff Member

    Who views Muslims as being "sub-human"?

    And who else supported the 9/11 attacks? Just as there are Muslim extremists who danced in the streets as people fell from those buildings before they collapsed, some Americans supported the bombing of Makkah, and funnily enough, the anti-Muslim diatribe coming out of the US are from the extreme right Christian groups are the people responsible for it.

    Extremism and hatred exists on both sides of the Christian/Muslim divide. Blaming atheists is foolish.

    Then you are blind. It is the radical Christians who are calling for death to Islam and calling all Muslims terrorists. It was a radical Christian who called for and ordered the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq and who ummed and ahhed at invading Iran. Not atheists.

    "These people"? And you refer to us as being intolerant?

    Would it be correct for me to say it is 'these people' who saw fit to fly planes into buildings, murdering thousands of innocent people, in reference to Muslims? No. Because the people who committed that crime do not represent all Muslims. I would consider it an insult to even compare it.

    Do you have proof that Atheists are building zionism and killing people for material and financial wealth? Links? Anything? Or are you just spouting crud?

    Guess again Sunshine.

    Slavery existed in Islam long before it existed amongst the very Christian West, who took up the practice and justified it by the 'good book'. Look at Spain as a prime example.

    And your brothers? What? You're African now?

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    So did many other people, from all walks of the religious divide.

    The Quakers went up against the religious establishment who deemed slavery to be acceptable.

    While other Muslims were capturing and enslaving people. Life is circular as they say.

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    Oh, and irony:


    Pot.. Kettle.. Black..

    You accuse atheists of intolerance, but you are terribly intolerant yourself.

    What does materialism and greed have to do with atheism? You're telling me that only atheists are capable of such human emotions?

    Do you think the West should ban atheism? Should they go by way of many strictly religious societies and start culling the Atheist herd (for lack of a better term)? How delightfully intolerant of you!

    No pet. The West does not support atheism or atheists. Have you ever seen a candidate in the US or the UK (for example) claim to be an atheist openly and freely? No. To do so would be considered political suicide. So no, we are not nurtured by the West. Quite the contrary.

    Who is this "you" of which you speak?


    You would find that the greater majority on this forum who support the "War on Terror" are theists. Read properly and comprehend and you'd find that it is atheists, especially on this forum, who hold a strong anti-war view.

    I know, it shatters your illusions to think that Atheists on this forum might be standing with you when it comes to the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan, but it is time for you to suck it up like the manchild you are and accept the fact that it is the radical Christians who are calling for the continued occupation of those two countries and who bayed for the invasion of said countries.

    No sweety.

    The result of materialism, capitalism and social anarchy is the human condition. Being an atheist has nothing to do with it. Next time you turn on your computer or your mobile phone, remember that.

    And you are preaching love to your fellow men in this post?

    I won't bother to point out the hypocrisy and detestable irony of this post and with that comment in particular. It is so obvious that even you should be able to see it.

    The grandstanding is amusing though. Let us know if you need a step ladder to get down from that soapbox.

    Ermmm.. You do know that's what radical Christians say about Muslims, right?

    And more and more we are coming to the realisation that some people just should not have access to the internet to post their hatred. And yet, here you are.
  14. codanblad a love of bridges Registered Senior Member

  15. DiamondHearts Registered Senior Member

    The Atheist tendency to blame religion for all the faults of the world, perpetuates oppression and occupation of Muslim nations by dehumanizing Muslims.

    The Christians, indeed, had their oppressive and religious inspired wars in history, the Crusades and Reconquista being the most glaring, but at the moment the Christians are marginalized in the West. The power centers have shifted to Atheism and materialistic doctrines. I couple the two because they are both related. If you notice, the military attacks on Muslim countries such as Afghanistan and Iraq, are coupled with anti-religious propaganda from Atheists, Zionists (Jewish Atheists), and Christians.

    Christianity died when Nietzsche proclaimed very brilliantly that 'God is Dead,' meaning that for Europeans that God was no longer of paramount importance. This ushered in the age of colonialism, slavery, and outright genocide which followed afterwards. The Christians of today are simply shallow puppets of the Western Atheist system, which wishes to create mankind in the image of an animal, devoid of all beauty and wisdom, and to perpetuate the disintegration of morality, piety, and most of all God-consciousness among the people of the world. This leads to outright hypocrisy and the living of double-lives by self-professed Christians in the West. The laws of the Bible and the Torah are thrown aside, which supports the Atheist notion that religion is useless. The society then becomes either blatantly opposed to religion (Atheist) or nominal Christians, Jews, etc.

    Furthermore, the Atheists have completely destroyed and discredited in the Western mind the Christian doctrine, that being a religious Christian is mocked and ridiculed. A Christian scientist, biologist, or chemist is deemed as unfit to teach. The new phenoma which emerges is the complete subjugation of Christianity to Atheism, and its Western elite, whom are its chief propagators. Now, somehow, drinking alcohol, fornication, watching dirty movies, and being absorbed in material excesses is more popular than God and going to His church. Suddenly, you have a society which calls itself Christian but does not act Christian, and which perpetuates this perversion into other cultures. Like a virus taking root in host societies, it transforms these societies until it infects them with the avid materialism which is the chief export of the West. Traditional, God-fearing societies crumble, and in their place rise hollow, brainwashed materialistic greedy and lustful generations.

    This is what we have now. Majority of the traditional societies of the world are being transformed into God-less societies as we speak. The family structures of these nations are disintegrating before our very eyes. Crime, rapes, murders, abductions, STDs, perversions, adultery, alcoholism, drug use. An infection which is spreading like cancer over the whole world. Societies being indoctrinated into the Atheistic, materialistic lifestyle. All in the name of 'freedom.' Freedom to indulge the human appetite, freedom to exploit the impoverished, freedom to create a world in which wealth and not honor matter. Freedom which is simply the slavery of the self. Egotism, greed, gluttony, perversion, hedonism.

    Atheism is, and forever shall be, the main obstacle to the aspiration of freedom for the oppressed people of the world. As long as there is no fear of God among the people or the elite of the West, there is no room for justice and equality in the West. Muslims will die, they will bleed, and it will be justified. People whose destinies are genocide, whose homes are destroyed, whose women are captured and kept as slaves for soldiers, whose children are blown to pieces. The heart of the third world nations yearns for freedom, and that freedom shall come only when morality and equality is restored.

    Up in your peaceful sanctuary, built on the bones and skulls of toiling people, how can you understand? If you have never been the victim of oppression and war, how can you understand what its like to live in fear? How can you understand what its like to live like a refugee in your own lands?

    There is only one solace, and that is that God shall judge between the oppressors and the oppressed. We shall all be judged for how we spent our lives, and then we will all know the truth. For those who rejected their Creator, and spread mischief in the land, what a horrible destination awaits.
  16. DiamondHearts Registered Senior Member

    Pokemon, learn to quote on context.

    For all the complaints against Christian bigotry against Atheists, Atheists are the most intolerant, illogical, and violent beings on the planet. Who else would encourage the bombing of Muslim holy city Makkah, and of calling Muslims 'men living in caves with ugly women' (this can be found in the thread 'God= Allah is the true one and only God' [I forget the actual name])?

    Not all Atheists, but a substantial portion of them.
  17. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

    Er, I'm fairly sure we had colonialism and slavery well before Nietzsche.

    So everything was hunky-dory and just perfect before "atheism"? No oppression, no justice, no inequality?
    Stunning. So if everything was just so good how did atheism arise?
  18. superstring01 Moderator


    Because Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, Shinto, Confucian, Zoroastrian and the various animist "elites" would neeeeeever exploit their own populations on account of god intervening and helping out the masses.

    This is utter bullshit. Which god then?

    If god is the ultimate authority, then I need only find one who serves to justify my actions! The fact is "god" has nothing to do with it. People do bad things. God is an invention by people who desperately need something greater than themselves to cling on to and to explain the un-explainable. You are a perfect example of this. You argue passionately for something that has no proof, no basis in actual reality, and decry those who look for a scientific, verifiable truth as "immoral" and "materialistic", as if one cannot find materialism in religious societies, which is patently ridiculous and totally ignorant. You're deluded Diamond.

    If a person cannot do bad things within their religion, they'll merely subvert it or invent a new one altogether.

  19. superstring01 Moderator

    Slavery has been around since the dawn of man. It was present before Christianity and Islam. It was present during Christianity and Islam.

    Odd, that its decline has only come about during the rise of rationalism, science, and--GASP!--atheism.

  20. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

    There will come a time when the enslaving dogma of Islam has been completely forgotten. It may be replaced by something even worse, humans are capable of believing anything. But just because you, diamondhearts, find happiness in mental slavery, doesn't mean that the freedom to choose how to live is something that people should be prevented from exercising.

    Memorial Service

    H. L. Mencken

    Where is the grave-yard of dead gods? What lingering mourner waters their mounds? There was a day when Jupiter was the king of the gods, and any man who doubted his puissance was ipso facto a barbarian and an ignoramus. But where in all the world is there a man who worships Jupiter to-day? And what of Huitzilopochtli? In one year--and it is no more than five hundred years ago--50,000 youths and maidens were slain in sacrifice to him. Today, if he is remembered at all, it is only by some vagrant savage in the depths of the Mexican forest. Huitzilopochtli, like many other gods, had no human father; his mother was a virtuous widow; he was born of an apparently innocent flirtation that she carried on with the sun. When he frowned, his father, the sun, stood still. When he roared with rage, earthquakes engulfed whole cities. When he thirsted he was watered with 10,000 gallons of human blood. But today [in 1921] Huitzilopochtli is as magnificently forgotten as Allen G. Thurman. Once the peer of Allah, Buddha, and Wotan, he is now the peer of General Coxey, Richmond P. Hobson, Nan Petterson, Alton B. Parker, Adelina Patti, General Weyler, and Tom Sharkey.

    Speaking of Huitzilopochtli recalls his brother, Tezcatilpoca. Tezcatilpoca was almost as powerful: He consumed 25,000 virgins a year. Lead me to his tomb: I would weep, and hang a couronne des perles. But who knows where it is? Or where the grave of Quitzalcontl is? Or Tialoc? Or Chalchihuitlicue? Or Xiehtecutli? Or Centeotl, that sweet one? Or Tlazolteotl, the goddess of love? Or Mictlan? Or Ixtlilton? Or Omacatl? Or Yacatecutli? Or Mixcoatl? Or Xipe? Or all the host of Tzitzimitles? Where are their bones? Where is the willow on which they hung their harps? In what forlorn and unheard of hell do they await the resurrection morn? Who enjoys their residuary estates? Or that of Dis, whom Caesar found to be the chief god of the Celts? Or that of Tarves, the bull? Or that of Moccos, the pig? Or that of Epona, the mare? Or that of Mullo, the celestial jack-ass? There was a time when the Irish revered all these gods as violently as they now hate the English. But today even the drunkest Irishman laughs at them.
  21. DiamondHearts Registered Senior Member

    I mean to say that he expertly observed the reality that the Western world had rejected God.

    Yes, but the the global European colonial ravaging of third world nations followed with the fall in influence of Christianity over the Western mind, and the rise of both secularism and social Darwinism.

    The oppression of the people under European rule following the rise of Godlessness in the West was hitherto unprecedented.

    I can give you several examples. The the late 1700s, Portuguese, British, and French ships began massacre Muslim pilgrims who were on their way to to Makkah. Hundreds of thousands of people were massacred and killed, then the Portuguese raided Goa, and massacred nearly all the men in the region, saving the woman for themselves, and this led to the rise of the mixed-Portuguese community in Goa. The British massacred entire Mughal families, in the hundreds and thousands, maybe even more, entire tribes were cleansed from the Earth. The regions of Dehli, Agra, and Fatehpur Sikri, Heart of the Mughal lands, were ethnically cleansed of their people. Families which were present for thousands of years in the history of the region simply vanished in a matter of months. The Europeans proceeded to manufacture man-made famines throughout the subcontinent, especially in the regions of Bengal and Southern India, forcing them to rely on European food to survive. In the entire history of South Asia, and this is only one region, such oppression and massacre never took place before. People were hunted like animals, and the Muslims who bore the brunt of the attack lost many of their people. In some regions, Muslims went from 90% of the population to less than 5%, Hindus and Sikhs also faced horrendous massacres. Whole dynasties were slain, royal princesses were dishonored and burnt alive, kings were crushed under the trample of horses, and all manner of oppression was used. For nearly 100 years the people faced tremendous subjugation, but in particular the Muslims. Farsi, their chief language was forbidden to them, punishable by death if they were caught teaching it. Mosques were used as stables, and the ornaments form sacred buildings were taken off to feed the British war machine. It was such a case that for nearly 100 years, a Muslim could not get a job in the government above that of a filler of inkpots and a maker of tea. The invaders broke the back of one of the wealthiest societies the world had ever seen. The savagery of the European invaders was unprecedented throughout the history, they even surpassing the cruelty of the Mongol hordes.

    I personally blame Atheism and rise of materialism in the West for the massacres and genocide of my people. They have transformed some of the wealthiest regions in history into starving societies dependent on Western imports for survival. I don't believe most Westerners can understand the psychological impact which this has had on the people of the third world.
  22. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

    No one with any credibility thinks that the French, British, or Portuguese of the 1700's were anything but overwhelmingly devout Christians.
  23. DiamondHearts Registered Senior Member

    Anyway, as is evident, I need a break from this forum. The discussions in this thread have really dawned on me the amount of psychological warfare perpetuated on Muslims by Atheists. I probably won't respond to your comments for a long time, so go ahead and post as much nonsense and hatred you can.

    Just remember that one day, all people on Earth shall be judged by their Creator. Don't do any injustice to anyone and strive to find God, salvation is assured for those who seek God. Have hope in the Mercy and Forgiveness of God.


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