A whale sanctuary coming to my part of the world....

[Dennis Tate]

I do think that it is wonderful that several whales who gave so much enjoyment to so many children both young and old for so many years may well soon have a large area in which to live out their remaining years.... (or possibly even decades).

I would guess that I must have been where this photo was taken on at least fifty if not a hundred times over these past fifteen years.



https://whalesanctuaryproject.org/w...nova-scotia-for-sanctuary-for-captive-whales/

Whale Sanctuary Project selects Port Hilford, Nova Scotia, for sanctuary site
Posted February 25, 2020 in For the Media, News by Michael Mountain

 

[RainbowSingularity]

what does justin say ?
have local government already pre approved law zones ?

you cant just assign westerner sanctuary to indian fishing waters and land
how many million do they have sitting in their whale sanctuary trust account ?

e.g
you could probably safely run a shell fish farm along the shore lines

 

[Beer w/Straw]

I was more thinking about Orcas.

Whale sanctuary also sounds like free lunch for killer whales.

 

[RainbowSingularity]

I was more thinking about Orcas.

Whale sanctuary also sounds like free lunch for killer whales.

lol
this ? nature can be a cruel bitch but she always brings home the bacon

this is amazing

orca play with baby seals and throw them around like dolls teaching baby orca how to hunt


this is amazing ! how skilled is this

 

[Dennis Tate]

what does justin say ?
have local government already pre approved law zones ?

you cant just assign westerner sanctuary to indian fishing waters and land
how many million do they have sitting in their whale sanctuary trust account ?

e.g
you could probably safely run a shell fish farm along the shore lines

Legally the stage seems to be quite well set up for this.

Intelligent and socially complex animals

The plan to locate a sanctuary in Nova Scotia comes in the wake of Parliament passing Bill S-203 in 2019 to bring an end to keeping whales and dolphins captive in Canada.

From what I have heard most of the funding seems to already be in place.

Plans for the sanctuary include a visitor center, nature trail and viewing spots. The sanctuary will also work with schools and museums to offer educational programs about the whales at the sanctuary and their counterparts in the wild.

Funding for the creation and operation of the sanctuary will be through private donations. Funding for the two-year search for an ideal site for the sanctuary has been led by Munchkin, Inc., makers of unique products for babies and children.
https://whalesanctuaryproject.org/w...nova-scotia-for-sanctuary-for-captive-whales/

 

[Dennis Tate]

I was more thinking about Orcas.

Whale sanctuary also sounds like free lunch for killer whales.

They are talking about both Orcas as well as Beluga whales and also dolphins.

The Whale Sanctuary Project is working with you to establish a model seaside sanctuary where cetaceans (whales and dolphins) can live in an environment that maximizes well-being and autonomy and is as close as possible to their natural habitat.

It is the first organization focused exclusively on creating seaside sanctuaries in North America for orcas and beluga whales who are being retired from entertainment facilities or have been rescued from the ocean and need rehabilitation or permanent care.


https://whalesanctuaryproject.org/

 

[Dennis Tate]

lol
this ? nature can be a cruel bitch but she always brings home the bacon

this is amazing

orca play with baby seals and throw them around like dolls teaching baby orca how to hunt


this is amazing ! how skilled is this

Based on that first video I am now guessing that the killer whales will not be able to be in the same sanctuary as the Beluga whales????

Amazing never before seen footage of Orcas hunting a Humpback whale calf and consuming its tongue. Shot off the Baja California peninsula, Mexico.

While fully grown Humpback whales have little to fear from Orcas, their calves are a favorite prey item for the transient Killers that frequently visit the Baja California peninsula. Orcas are such successful hunters that they can afford to be picky eaters. In the case of whale calves they will often eat only the tongue and leave the rest of the carcass to scavengers.

The hunt went on for over an hour with the mother Humpback and and an escort fighting to fend of the Killers. Eventually, as is often the case, the Orcas prevailed. We then witnessed something truly incredible! The largest male in the pod spent over an hour circling our boat holding the young whale in his mouth, almost as if showing off their prize (we try not to assign human attributes to non-humans but in cases like this it is hard not to)! The Orcas then proceeded to eat the tongue of the young whale right below us, allowing us the opportunity to capture this unique footage.

It was a bittersweet experience. We love all Cetaceans and animals and were heartbroken as well as in awe as we watched these scenes unfold.

 

[RainbowSingularity]

They are talking about both Orcas as well as Beluga whales and also dolphins.

only belugas are regionally local
orca & dolphins are frontier apex predators
while they have territory
only the beluga requires a specified area to feed and live in
unlike orca and dolphins

do orca hunt beluga if they are baited into co-existence in habitat (some orca will)

i highly recommend a shell fish farm being included in the build
it adds another tourist stop off where they can spend money and introduces long term scientific salaried local money & science
it also allows pay-off to natives and local natives to be capable of delivering hard currency as food & cash to allow integration into their resource zones

Based on that first video I am now guessing that the killer whales will not be able to be in the same sanctuary as the Beluga whales????

captive ?
locked inside ?

Orca are extremely smart
they are also apex predators which will eat any other type of living marine animal that is not poisonous
They have advanced group interactive hunting techniques and change those depending on the prey
adolescent orca will actively (like a teenage human) seek out things to kill & play with &/or have mental health issue where they become killer psychopaths etc
and/or attack or reject group interaction with their own species & family's

dolphins very similar but they dont have the kill and dissect power of orca so they are locked into school fish

Beluga are more sheep like more group socially orientated and less violent
they also have smaller young which will be killed and eaten by Orca if the Orca like the taste and can eat them without being damaged.

Beluga face more REAL threat from humans attacking them or poisoning them in some way.


the only thing Orca do not kill is things they do not WANT to kill

if Orca decided to hunt & kill humans in the water
it would be like a 1990s attack submarine verses a 1930s naval frigate(humans are the 1930s naval frigate)

why dont orca kill and eat sharks ?
probably because they have too much pollution in them and really tough skin & sharp teeth.
but they could if they wanted
and Orca can kill with its tail as an attack weapon unlike a shark
an orca can choose to drown something or smash it with brute force
or use a tool like a wave etc
Belugas are a bit dumb & not mentally designed as primarily defensive against advanced predation.
though given pressure Beluga would develop group defense tactics against Orca, possibly targeting their young to create hereditary exclusion concepts via genocide

the mental trauma the Beluga would knowingly cause on the orca mother by killing its babys would be enough to disrupt the family from hunting in that area and install a disruptive mental discourse that would probably create the exclusion zone as a survival critical function

Dolphin & Beluga are very compatible

but unscrupulous fishing business owners will kill dolphins
so you need active policing & local support

which is part of the psychology & functional practicality of shell fish farming in the area
so business is behind supporting the preservation of the ecosystem and marine life, to defend against those fishing business owners

• Tourism operator
• Shell Fish Farm owners & workers
• Local Tribal community
• Take away
• Cafe
• local store
• Bed & Breakfast
• hard ware store
• Rental property's(owners) & holiday home owners and local camping ground

all support the preservation of the dolphin & other marine life against the corporate business fishing owners who will try and kill the marine life & wipe out all competition and other influential businesses & interests.

 

[Dennis Tate]

only belugas are regionally local
orca & dolphins are frontier apex predators
while they have territory
only the beluga requires a specified area to feed and live in
unlike orca and dolphins

do orca hunt beluga if they are baited into co-existence in habitat (some orca will)

i highly recommend a shell fish farm being included in the build
it adds another tourist stop off where they can spend money and introduces long term scientific salaried local money & science
it also allows pay-off to natives and local natives to be capable of delivering hard currency as food & cash to allow integration into their resource zones



captive ?
locked inside ?

Orca are extremely smart
they are also apex predators which will eat any other type of living marine animal that is not poisonous
They have advanced group interactive hunting techniques and change those depending on the prey
adolescent orca will actively (like a teenage human) seek out things to kill & play with &/or have mental health issue where they become killer psychopaths etc
and/or attack or reject group interaction with their own species & family's

dolphins very similar but they dont have the kill and dissect power of orca so they are locked into school fish

Beluga are more sheep like more group socially orientated and less violent
they also have smaller young which will be killed and eaten by Orca if the Orca like the taste and can eat them without being damaged.

Beluga face more REAL threat from humans attacking them or poisoning them in some way.


the only thing Orca do not kill is things they do not WANT to kill

if Orca decided to hunt & kill humans in the water
it would be like a 1990s attack submarine verses a 1930s naval frigate(humans are the 1930s naval frigate)

why dont orca kill and eat sharks ?
probably because they have too much pollution in them and really tough skin & sharp teeth.
but they could if they wanted
and Orca can kill with its tail as an attack weapon unlike a shark
an orca can choose to drown something or smash it with brute force
or use a tool like a wave etc
Belugas are a bit dumb & not mentally designed as primarily defensive against advanced predation.
though given pressure Beluga would develop group defense tactics against Orca, possibly targeting their young to create hereditary exclusion concepts via genocide

the mental trauma the Beluga would knowingly cause on the orca mother by killing its babys would be enough to disrupt the family from hunting in that area and install a disruptive mental discourse that would probably create the exclusion zone as a survival critical function

Dolphin & Beluga are very compatible

but unscrupulous fishing business owners will kill dolphins
so you need active policing & local support

which is part of the psychology & functional practicality of shell fish farming in the area
so business is behind supporting the preservation of the ecosystem and marine life, to defend against those fishing business owners

• Tourism operator
• Shell Fish Farm owners & workers
• Local Tribal community
• Take away
• Cafe
• local store
• Bed & Breakfast
• hard ware store
• Rental property's(owners) & holiday home owners and local camping ground

all support the preservation of the dolphin & other marine life against the corporate business fishing owners who will try and kill the marine life & wipe out all competition and other influential businesses & interests.

Wow!!!

This part of your comment was quite surprising to me:
....

Orca are extremely smart
they are also apex predators which will eat any other type of living marine animal that is not poisonous
They have advanced group interactive hunting techniques and change those depending on the prey
adolescent orca will actively (like a teenage human) seek out things to kill & play with &/or have mental health issue where they become killer psychopaths etc
and/or attack or reject group interaction with their own species & family's

 

[RainbowSingularity]

Wow!!!

This part of your comment was quite surprising to me:
....

Beluga are tied to zones & cycles
where as dolphins are roaming
orca are roaming

https://seaworld.org/animals/all-about/beluga-whales/habitat/

Most beluga whales migrate south as the ice pack advances in the autumn. One population summers in the Mackenzie River estuary of Northwest Territories, Canada, and migrates 5,000 km (3,105 mi.) southwest to coastal areas of the Bering Sea in the winter. Other populations of belugas migrate north in the autumn.

Beluga whales inhabit the Arctic Ocean and its adjoining seas. During certain times of the year they are also found in large rivers.

During certain times of the year belugas can be found in large rivers such as the Amur River of Russia, and the Yukon and St. Lawrence rivers of Canada. Belugas have been found 1,995 km (1,240 mi.) up the Amur River, and 965 km (600 mi.) up the Yukon.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
soo as you can see regional protections are critical to ensure species survival
as opposed to roaming pods of dolphin & orca which can be completely global
Beluga are a lot more sensitive

doing anything that might bait juvenile orca to hunt baby beluga would be beyond foolish
it would be like drinking and driving around schools

having a shellfish farm working the same inlet would allow them to hold high powered riffles to kill any predatory juvenile orca or sharks that decided to attack the beluga
etc etc etc
sound logic is always sound logic
as rare as it may be to many people

one moment im trimming the lawn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dugong

 

[RainbowSingularity]

local tribes
local government
local fishing guides
local fishing businesses
local tourist operators
local general stores
local bed and breakfasts
local rangers wildlife

Beluga are regionally specific
Orca & Dolphin are international

"Whale Sanctury"
versus
"Beluga Environmental & Economic protection zone"

"whale sanctuary"
is airy fairy nonsense

you may have to kill some whales(occasional marine life like a wild mentally insane orca or shark or other apex predator) to protect Beluga
reality versus bullshit

some orca turn into serial killers for fun
they go on killing rampages and also get personal hate towards individuals and various species
easily as mentally complex as an average human

etc etc etc

de scaling beaches (zones) for humpbacks included etc etc etc

salmon fishing & spawning etc etc etc

 

[RainbowSingularity]

what % of politicians are only in politics to line their own pockets and serve their own narcissistic power machinations of personal ideological dictatorship ?

good ideas do not become bad ideas because the ruling political party has changed
unless the ruling political party are psychopaths seeking to vote buy voters whom are psychopaths

 

[Dennis Tate]

what % of politicians are only in politics to line their own pockets and serve their own narcissistic power machinations of personal ideological dictatorship ?

good ideas do not become bad ideas because the ruling political party has changed
unless the ruling political party are psychopaths seeking to vote buy voters whom are psychopaths

My impression at this time is that a much higher percentage of politicians have relatively good motives for their first campaign but.........
the eight thousand five hundred wealthiest of the wealthy have designed a system where new politicians are tempted..........

and lured into deals that they are all too human to resist..........

When you look at the net wealth accumulated by long term political leaders and compare that number with their salary plus benefits each years plus whatever level of wealth they began with or inherited...........

you will notice that the numbers do not really add up for those who were in politics for a number of decades.