A Question about Mole?

Kumar said:
Continuing smell of any smelling syrup even after many washings and reffiling of syrup glass bottles do indicate something in adsorption favour.
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That has nothing to do with what I said. I said that you should be able to test whether the silica in the glass is adsorbing "something" or not: Make your homeopathic concoction in a vessel containing silica and in another vessel that doesn't contain silica. If the concoction has the same effect in the vessel that doesn't contain silica, then the silica has nothing to do with it.

Have homeopaths done such a test?
 
sideshowbob said:
That has nothing to do with what I said. I said that you should be able to test whether the silica in the glass is adsorbing "something" or not: Make your homeopathic concoction in a vessel containing silica and in another vessel that doesn't contain silica. If the concoction has the same effect in the vessel that doesn't contain silica, then the silica has nothing to do with it.

Have homeopaths done such a test?
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I don't know if he means fumed silica ; which is sometime used as a thickening agent . If is laying on bottom of a glass with water it may adsorb some chemicals .
 
origin said:
What part of 'clinical tests of homeopathy proves it does not work' do you not understand?
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Hormesis and Radiation Hormesis can indicate about the mechanism of working by lower material and energetic doses. However lower material or energetic dose( relevant molecular or spectrum information) in homeopathic higer potencies is needed to be better understood. For that only, I am checking various possibilties. One molecular or spectrum presence is justified, it will be quite easy to go ahead. Moreover, collecting data from homeopathic clinics all over the world can serve a purpose of "live evidances" and tell about its positive affects. In view of its limitations, it may not be possible to prove it in DBPC studies at part to conventional medicines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_hormesis
 
sideshowbob said:
That has nothing to do with what I said. I said that you should be able to test whether the silica in the glass is adsorbing "something" or not: Make your homeopathic concoction in a vessel containing silica and in another vessel that doesn't contain silica. If the concoction has the same effect in the vessel that doesn't contain silica, then the silica has nothing to do with it.

Have homeopaths done such a test?
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It is true, if other containers do not adsorb. Whereas these are too much variations in getting specific medical effects from remedies. Probably, this may be a reason to get variations in effects and to unclarities about its efficacy..
 
Kumar said:
Hormesis and Radiation Hormesis can indicate about the mechanism of working by lower material and energetic doses. However lower material or energetic dose( relevant molecular or spectrum information) in homeopathic higer potencies is needed to be better understood. For that only, I am checking various possibilties. One molecular or spectrum presence is justified, it will be quite easy to go ahead. Moreover, collecting data from homeopathic clinics all over the world can serve a purpose of "live evidances" and tell about its positive affects. In view of its limitations, it may not be possible to prove it in DBPC studies at part to conventional medicines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_hormesis
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Hormesis has nothing to do with homeopathy. Hormesis is essentially building up an immunity to a toxin or radiation by low doses, which is completely different than homeopathy voodoo.
 
Kumar said:
"The most familiar, and historically the oldest, types of glass are based on the chemical compound silica (silicon dioxide), the primary constituent of sand
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass "
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Let me add to your personal data base on glass SiO2 Quartz, fire polished glass which will not be water wettable , glass depending on the ratio of SiO2 to N2O
But pardon me , would you repeat as what is the final purpose in regard to silica?
 
timojin said:
Let me add to your personal data base on glass SiO2 Quartz, fire polished glass which will not be water wettable , glass depending on the ratio of SiO2 to N2O
But pardon me , would you repeat as what is the final purpose in regard to silica?
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I simply concerned with adsorption possibilty on glass bottle walls. I suspect, it is due to presence of Silica in glass of bottles.
 
origin said:
Hormesis has nothing to do with homeopathy. Hormesis is essentially building up an immunity to a toxin or radiation by low doses, which is completely different than homeopathy voodoo.
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Toxicity is relevant to quantity not to quality of any substance. Hence any substance can be treated as a dose and hormesis is a dose response phenomenon characterized by a low dose stimulation, high dose inhibition(of physiological activities). Homeopathy also claim to work via arranging derranged Vtal force in order. But I personally feel, esp homegenous substances to our body, low doses of homeopathy simply creates an extreme n false impression of defficiency to our neurological system enabling stimulation of physiological activities for those deffeciencies.
 
Kumar said:
Toxicity is relevant to quantity not to quality of any substance. Hence any substance can be treated as a dose and hormesis is a dose response phenomenon characterized by a low dose stimulation, high dose inhibition(of physiological activities). Homeopathy also claim to work via arranging derranged Vtal force in order. But I personally feel, esp homegenous substances to our body, low doses of homeopathy simply creates an extreme n false impression of defficiency to our neurological system enabling stimulation of physiological activities for those deffeciencies.
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"Vital force" is a totally bogus concept.
 
exchemist said:
"Vital force" is a totally bogus concept.
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Simply name change. Manipulating immune/defence response in science language. Hormesis consider it as:-

A related concept is Mithridatism, which refers to the willful exposure to toxins in an attempt to develop immunity against them......The biochemical mechanisms by which hormesis works are not well understood. It is conjectured that low doses of toxins or other stressors might activate the repair mechanisms of the body. The repair process fixes not only the damage caused by the toxin, but also other low-level damage that might have accumulated before without having triggered the repair mechanism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormesis
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But I personally feel homeopathic remedies are just meant to increase senstization by low doses. These may give Homeostatic, Immunogenic, Antigenic, Anti-suppressive, allergic(?) etc. type of effects depending upon the type of remedy used.
 
Kumar said:
Simply name change. Manipulating immune/defence response in science language. Hormesis consider it as:-



But I personally feel homeopathic remedies are just meant to increase senstization by low doses. These may give Homeostatic, Immunogenic, Antigenic, Anti-suppressive, allergic(?) etc. type of effects depending upon the type of remedy used.
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However you dress it up, homeopathy is hocus-pocus with no basis in science. The best it can possibly achieve is via a placebo effect - which could be obtained by other means. Pretending that it has real medical efficacy is dangerous nonsense.
 
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exchemist said:
However you dress it up, homeopathy is hocus-pocus with no basis in science. The best it can possibly achieve is via a placebo effect - which could be obtained by other means. Pretending that it has real medical efficacy is dangerous nonsense.
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No, its mass presence creates doubts. At the most, if live evidances or people's experiances have no value in science, it can be regarded as a system beyond the current understandings of science. Still, it has both pros, cons and limitations like other systems.

Anyway, leave it. It is never ending discussions of no use. Let me concentrate on OP.

What about the chances of passing of a substance in more steps of dilutions of a less soluble substance in water or more concentrated substance in water than more soluble and more concentrate substance?
 
Kumar said:
No, its mass presence creates doubts. At the most, if live evidances or people's experiances have no value in science, it can be regarded as a system beyond the current understandings of science. Still, it has both pros, cons and limitations like other systems.

Anyway, leave it. It is never ending discussions of no use. Let me concentrate on OP.

What about the chances of passing of a substance in more steps of dilutions of a less soluble substance in water or more concentrated substance in water than more soluble and more concentrate substance?
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No, I've had it with your silly and interminable questions now.
 
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