4 Years to Save Earth!

[Lori_7]

some mood music...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoPlkmYaEQs&feature=avmsc2

 

[Kernl Sandrs]

This planet goes through periods of warming and cooling on a regular basis. 'Global Warming' (or Climate Change, as its called when its cold or snowing) is not a threat to mankind but, thanks to a subservient media, is a hot enough bandwagon for politicians and green lobbies to use to squeeze cash out of frightened but simple-minded folk.

So? that still doesn't make us any less fucked. Whether it's our fault or a natural process we're still headed down a bad road. And it wouldn't hurt to cut back on CO2 emissions, even if it's not our fault...

 

[Emil]

I propose to make our energy supply,that we can get warm when the sun will cool.

 

[Bert]

So, Dr James Hansen says we have only 4 years left to save the earth. After that, it will be too late.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! :bawl:

the end is nigh. :scratchin:

 

[Giambattista]

A minor uncertainty would be the "12 or 13 years ago" bit, which might with reasonable allowance for memory lapse give the great flood a couple more years to happen.

The major uncertainty is what exactly was meant, the exact wording and context, by the key introductory phrase "If what you're saying about the greenhouse effect is true - - - "

12 or 13 years prior to 2001 would be in the 88-90 area. He asked what things would look like in 20 years. 20 years from 88-90 would be 2008-2010.
I don't see a whole lot of uncertainty about what he said.
Moreover, I just wanted to provide some evidence for what I said about predictions, since (and I may be misunderstanding you) you seemed to imply that people were either misquoting him or making stuff up.

“ Originally Posted by giambattista
Dr. James Hansen made some asinine prediction if my memory serves correctly ”

It never has before, in this matter.

The oddity of the Foxnews crowd being largely unable to remember what people have said over the years is perhaps best explained by examining their media environment - here's an example of their environment's typical reporting on what James Hansen has been saying

I don't think my memory failed me on that. And my point was to provide evidence that my memory indeed served correctly.
And calling people who bring that kind of stuff up the "Foxnews crowd" is, uh... yeah.

Remains only the comment that failure to occur does not make the prediction asinine. So we got lucky?

Either we got lucky, or his prospects at being a prophet are not that good.

 

[iceaura]

Moreover, I just wanted to provide some evidence for what I said about predictions, since (and I may be misunderstanding you) you seemed to imply that people were either misquoting him or making stuff up.

You weren't quoting him, or making stuff up: you were describing what he said - as an "asinine prediction".

So I wasn't accusing you of misquoting or making stuff up - misunderstanding is also covered, uncertain memory, a prediction that in the original form was not "asinine", and so forth.

And calling people who bring that kind of stuff up the "Foxnews crowd" is, uh... yeah.

It's a handy description - allows the reader to predict opinions and political stances with better than fair accuracy.

We see that Hansen's predictions are "asinine", but not quite nailed down in key detail. Now Hansen is polemical, strident, a guy who has gone out on many limbs - much more so than the general run of AGW alarmists - and one of the likeliest sources for an asinine prediction, but the conversation as reported is secondhand and from memory, the date is vague, the words are not actually coming to us from Hansen, and the key description of context is missing important features; meanwhile, we know that reporters in general have a very poor track record dealing with scientific topics and assertions, the conversational statements of scientists are famously vulnerable to mishap on the way to journalist recounting in print. Maybe this one is different.

 

[Shadow1]

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we wan't make it!
hehehehehe
does it mean, bye bye tv a,d internet?
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

 

[keith1]

So, Dr James Hansen says we have only 4 years left to save the earth.

Science creates technology creates problem creates solution:

Orbital and sub-orbital solar-blocking tech

This solution leaves no blame to technology, or other human, natural/solar causes. It only conveys a solution.

 

[Shadow1]

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Science creates technology creates problem creates solution:

Orbital and sub-orbital solar-blocking tech

This solution leaves no blame to technology, or other human, natural/solar causes. It only conveys a solution.

i don't agree, do you want a bigger disaster to happen to our planet, as the link says, we should apply it only when we get desepered and no other solution
but i'd hate the red weather, or the permanant eclipse.

 

[Shadow1]

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Science creates technology creates problem creates solution:

Orbital and sub-orbital solar-blocking tech

This solution leaves no blame to technology, or other human, natural/solar causes. It only conveys a solution.

but i do agree on the sun blockers thing, and those can be also used to generate solar power from space, and do 2 jobs, give us power, and protect us,
and it wouldnt like it to live in an eclipse-like the rest of my life, hehehehehe, i think it would be a good choise to save earth when things go mad, and deseperd.

 

[keith1]

but i do agree on the sun blockers thing, and those can be also used to generate solar power from space, and do 2 jobs, give us power, and protect us,
and it wouldnt like it to live in an eclipse-like the rest of my life, hehehehehe, i think it would be a good choise to save earth when things go mad, and deseperd.

Its good to have a backup plan.