3rd eye

well, I just read about it and was going to post a thread also!:) I don't know much about it except what I have already read in my book. It said how you should imagine a "flower" (I don't feel like going back and rereading about it) from the top of your throat moving up to the center of your forehead and it turning purple. Imagine it expanding throughout your head. You could feel tension around your face or something. And just basically the steps to "opening" the eye. It kind of helps your psychic abilities and everything. I don't know much about it but the things I have heard are kind of fuzzy in my head. I've tried "opening" it but I didn't feel anything much.
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some of the things I've read about it were form book called Remembering Your Dreams by Craig..... It doesn't say much, but the "technique" was from it. Plus I heard some other things about the third eye from people I know, but the book has told me more specific things. It only has a couple of pages on it though.
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The best book is ur mind! Play with urself, the book wont get u everywhere, but ur mind will!
Start with ur hopes, but imaginative!
The thing is that people close their eyes when doing it. Do it opened focusing straight ahead, turn some music on and just leave, create ur world.
First start doing it for 2 minutes and as ur urge and high hope strenghten do it more, hours.
The problem may be later is that the mind believes it as reality so u might have head issues for some time, probably one day or so!
U can even become something like lucid dreamers but its doing it when awake!
My thoughts are u could even die doing this! And this could be a complete third eye experience!HeeeeeeeeHeeeeeeee
 
For those of us who study yoga, the "third eye" is known as the Ajna Chakra, or "mind center". According to Swami Vishnudevananda (yes, I know it's a mouthfull, but it's fun to say) this chakra is located "in the space between the eyebrows". He also says that meditation on this area guarantees "extraordinary spiritual strength, knowledge, and rapid control over the various nerve centers".
 
I spent six months at their ranch in Woodburne, met Swami Vishnudevananda when he was still alive. I was curious about Vedanta at the time, but find there are too many trappings.
 
Brain Freeze !

If I concentrate to hard on making PsY Balls my "Third Eye" starts to throb (Massive Head Ache).
 
The third-eye is the brow chakra its color is indigo, its located slightly above the position between your eyebrows. I meditate on it and so far its improved my memory, and I'm able to see things sometimes.
 
Forget the damn chakras, what you think people have practicioned not knowing even those exist? Well, think!
 
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Forget the damn chakras, what you think people have practicioned not knowing even those exist? Well, think!
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What if they do? It's kind of hard to just say something is or it isn't.
 
Originally posted by Lucysnow
I spent six months at their ranch in Woodburne, met Swami Vishnudevananda when he was still alive. I was curious about Vedanta at the time, but find there are too many trappings.
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Really! What was he like? What do you mean by trappings? Just interested in your viewpoint.
 
Re: Brain Freeze !

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If I concentrate to hard on making PsY Balls my "Third Eye" starts to throb (Massive Head Ache).
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Perhaps through your concentration you are causing too much strain on your muscles which only causes a lack of flow of energy in the end. This can be very dangerous as too much energy built up in one area will cause your channels to become blocked and eventually collapse. Then you'll be very suprised what can happen to you physically from there. I suggest approaching it with a more gentle focus, not concentration. First see if you can find the natural path the energy flows through your body. Feel it. See it. Hear it. However that looks for you. Then GENTLY direct it. Tell me what happens afterward!;)
 
Collapse? That doesnt sound like fun... I better take it easy, thanks.
 
Third eye...my second favorite sensations come from the third eye. But the heart chakra has the best feelings to me.
Maureece is right about not trying to hard on concentrating on chakras. When you first start you might not feel much but after a bit you will, and after a longer time of working with them you might not feel anything anymore...so most people get discouraged that it was like a waste of time.... but most of the time what you dont feel is more important than what you do feel.

But anyway the third eye by far is worst one to experience if you try to hard , like what Teki said, about head aches... dont worry I use to get them all at times also. Maureece basically said the good things to do when opening chakras, be gentle. Have a relaxed concentration. One of the secrets to circulation of energy is not just only focusing on one point but 2 or more... thats part of the reason why people always talk about being grounded before you start. Doing Stance exercises is the best way to circulate and strengthen energy to me I believe, but its hard work to perservere thru but its well worth it and eventually you can stand in a stance for an hour or more.
Trying to hard does hinder the flow of energy. I look at it like this...why try so hard to develop something when its something thats natural to us? Its there, just cuz you cant feel it , its still there. Have faith, have faith in Yourself. I try to think in lines like that... it helps me relax. Dont try too hard. I think of elements when I work with them, cuz there constant yet fluid , calm yet fierce, hard yet changing....and natural. When you start to experience a feeling of getting taller or floating when you ground.... you know youve been doing good.

Chakras work better if you use combinations of the other chakras...thats thru my experience. I've seen the most beautiful displays of colors with my heart and third eye chakra working together... most of the time the root chakra always comes into play no matter what combo I use.

One way you can work on your third eye chakra without actually doing all this meditating and stuff is by a certain way of looking at things... especially while walking cuz walking helps keep the mind quiet. It also will , in due time help you develop and ability to "see" energy and such.
When you go out , for a walk , try to look at the shadows of things, I dont mean literally shadows like due to light but the outline of objects... from houses to trees to cars and such. Just look at the whole thing without looking at the detail, like looking at the shapes, the outlines the "shadow". And something else you can try to do is by "hearing" without listening, and I dont mean hearing things but hearing silence, of things. Like trying to hear where sound begins and ends. Which will be like paying attention to the silence underneath sound. "hearing" will also help quicken your reflexes. These two exercises... are very hard to do... really they are, they might sound all simple but keeping it up will be the hard part. The hearing silence will be even harder, for our world is full of noise. Or when you walk try keeping your eyes steady but looking at the horizon ahead of you, and try to see by perhiperal vision, your eyes will slighty cross in doing this. After practice you will start to notice you will be able to see 180 degrees all the time without moving your eyes, plus its good exercise to keep silent.
Good thing thats relaxing to me also is, on a windy day, go outside where theres a lot of grass... unfocus your eyes some as you watch the top of the grass... its like seeing how the wind moves... i'm always drawn to thinking im seeing a green ocean with the grass waving around. Its beautiful and calming to me. Lots of things in nature that are beautiful are usually simple, thats probly why we dont notice cuz we live complicated...not that its bad or anything... but all of it is under our noses.
 
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For most of the exercises I do to build energy, stances, meditation, martial arts, etc etc..there is a passive phase and an active phase, a version in which you gather or refine or redistribute energy and a version in which you do something with it. It's the same for trancework in Sleeping Lion posture, or in any posture which allows you to completely relax but maintain an alert mind. (When your energy is very high you may be able to work from a posture like full lotus, without physical support, but it is simpler to find a way to relax and stop worrying about it. The goal here is to leave the body safely behind for awhile, whether it is sitting upright with perfect posture or not isn't critical.)

Some of the skills of the spirit warrior are based on very simple techniques. Those techniques have over the ages come to be thought of as the goal of the practise. They are not, they are just steps on the path. It's kind of a crushing blow when you realize this is true, because some of these techniques, when realized, are commonly thought to give a person everything imaginable. Then you get there and you see there is infinite work still ahead and that can be very disappointing. You grow up a little, you wonder why you thought such a simple thing was so important. Like gazing at candles, many people are taught to do this, thinking that when their focus and attention are perfect and there is no difference between them and the candle that is the ultimate. It isn't enlightenment at all, it's just a fact and a skill.

Focusing the attention is a mental skill and there are many ways to learn it. The classic method would be placing an object like a candle or a statue of a deity you admire at a point about six and a half feet away from you, at near waist level. Or if you are sitting on the ground, on the ground in front of you that far away. Then you look at that point and mentally focus on that point without thinking. You become aware of that point in the same way you become aware of your little toe if somebody steps on it, but you do it without the physical stimulus and instinctive reaction. You do it by will. When your mind wanders, you bring your attention back to that point without being concerned that your mind has wandered. When your gaze wanders, you do the same. No wrong effort, no failure possible, you just do it. Eventually the mind does grow quiet and in the final stages of this training you reach a mental state of pure awareness, there is no difference between you and that object, perception and object are realized as two expressions of a single truth. Hard to explain, it's like attaining the Sacred Silence in the Indian paths. When I did this, after many years of trying way too hard, I suddenly didn't exist any more. The world didn't exist any more. There was a gray void, but a finite one. Big enough to hold the universe, sure, but also with boundaries. Like an egg seen from the inside. Inside the egg was awareness, awareness was the egg. But there was no quality of perception and no object to perceive, awareness does not see itself as separate. So, as Awareness I looked around without eyes for awhile and suddenly a thought sprang into being, This is Boring. With that the world started up again. I did that three times in one evening, ended it the same way every time. I'm not fond of the Void, I guess.

So, having come back to this world of illusion in search of something interesting to do, I sought a way to use that skill, that ability to focus the mind on a single point for long periods. It turns out that there are many.

One way to understand this is to see mental focusing as a way of bringing Awareness to a particular point. It does not matter whether this point is inside your body or not, or whether it is within reach, or whether you can directly perceive it. If you can visualize that point you can bring Awareness to it no matter where it is. Where Awareness goes, energy follows. The medium that manifests physicality is an energetic one, and focusing Awareness in a particular point brings this energy and the potential for manifestation to that point.

Suppose you wanted to perceive something so distant that for you it is unreachable. To do that you create a mental image of the location and focus Awareness at that point, setting aside the limitations of the illusions of time and space. As Awareness builds at that point, a tangible energy also begins to build. With visualization techniques you can shape that energy into a usable form, like an eye. Creating an eye of energy automatically brings the intent of sight to that form, and as you shift Awareness more and more to that remote eye, your perceptions become visual ones centered in that place.

It's a little tricky, the mind and body don't particular like this idea. It's like pulling the Earth out from underneath you, really, definitions of reality get all screwed up when you start doing this. If you cling to rigid self concepts you can't do it at all. Success depends on giving up self concepts, allowing a new self to form, one which has open ended abilities. This infinite self is just Awareness and has always been here, but we get scared of that idea. We think that unless we continually reinforce self concepts we'll disappear forever. Hmm, in my experience that hasn't happened permanently. I've disappeared for a little while now and then, become other beings now and then, but always wound up back here. Until it's time to move on, that will continue to happen.

In actual practise, suppose you've done your physical stance and your sitting meditation and now you are calm and focused and highly charged. You lie down in your "sleeping asana" and you want to do some remote viewing. At first maybe you have a lot of doubts, preconceptions about your lack of ability, so it may be good to pick a place that you know, one that isn't too far away. The next room, maybe. So you focus your attention on a point nearby you, one that you can see, and when you are intensely aware of that point you close your eyes. With eyes closed you continue that focused awareness of the known point. Then you shake the focal point loose from its physical location. Kind of neat trick, requires a new way of thinking about perception. That focal point is not dependent on any object's existence, it can exist on its own. Helps to give it the concept of energy and shape and move it by visualization. You practise moving it farther from you, in the direction of the place you want to see, through whatever objects are in the way, and to the chosen destination. Then you keep it there, become aware of this focused energy in that other place.

Doing this, you will experience flickering imagery that comes to you on its own, images of that place. It takes awhile if you are new at it, and when it does happen it is pretty exciting so you lose your grip on the process and it stops. You have to maintain that calm and onepointed focus in order to "see" in this way. Excitement, fear, anger, passion, all of these things get in the way and break your pattern of attention. People who practise meditation and chi kung are often bothered by flickering visions which seem like they should be important but don't pan out that way. Often when you try to remember them later, they are gone. Now and then something truly important comes through, and that is easily recalled, so just accepting that helps you deal with what is happening, a natural talent is emerging which you don't understand as yet. Another thing that happens occasionally to people is that while practising they drift into perception of another place, they perceive a different room than the one they are in, for instance. Then when they realize it's a different place they snap out of it and "return to their sense." Another example of a natural potential beginning to express itself. It isn't good to become too attached to these spontaneous visions and perceptions, you shouldn't attribute too much importance to them. As much as, hmm, as much as you would ascribe to driving to the nearest shopping center and buying a new toothbrush. That is an appropriate degree of importance, all journeys you take are not miraculous ones. When they are, you'll know it.

It's possible to see things through the imagination which are false, and many people set great store by these experiences, think of them as instructive and symbolic of great things. Usually, they are not, they are fantasies we build ourselves. The old test of visions, to judge whether they are true or not, is to try to change what you see by imagination. If you can change your vision it is false. A true vision is independent of your manipulation.

Remote viewing is pretty simple, many people can do it without much training at all and it does not seem to depend on "natural talent." It's just a fact of life that we've ignored. It seems like a very powerful talent, and it can be helpful at times. For the most part, it's only a tool, not a substitute for direct experience. Remote perceptions are often distorted, partially spoiled by imagination and preconception. The practise does lead to other things which are more important, and it is useful, it does have survival value.

The question of potential abuse is important. What happens if you get really good at this and the world turns into a fishbowl? In my experience, the more I learned and the more I believed in the ability the more limits I placed on my own conduct. In the early days I found myself wandering through walls a lot, passing through the homes of other people. OK, you can imagine the problems that might create, issues of privacy instantly arise. For many reasons I made a rule for myself rather quickly, that I would stay out of other people's homes unless I was invited there for correct reasons. If you want to keep the ability, you make your own moral limitations on it.

It really isn't a mark of high moral character, it is just a practical decision. What happens, literally, if a person wants to do something like enter the home of a desirable man or woman and observe them for voyeuristic reasons, is that a surge of energy in the remote viewer disconnects them from the experience instantly. Emotions must be calm and quiet to stay in the mode, and in this mode of perception the emotional being is extremely volatile and easily triggered to intense passions. So, if you have the powerful desire necessary to make this effort, the same desire will boot you right out of it. If you acquire the discipline needed to calm the emotions and stay in that situation, you have eliminated the basic desire that would guide you to it. If you want X rated video experiences you have to rent them, sorry.

Remote viewing is a simple thing, but lots of more complex practises arise from it, and those have more potential for abuse, more potential for positive action as well. The moral tradeoffs exist no matter how far into this you go. If you want to make progress and learn more powerful things, you set more and more limits on your conduct. Not because you are a person of high moral character, but because moral conduct is necessary to make this kind of progress. If you try it the other way, you end up with nothing. I speak from experience, having reached bottom several times along my own path, for those reasons, and I do not intend to make that mistake again.

There is a state of spiritual evolution which is eventually reached by following these paths, which I am just beginning to glimpse a bit now and then and maybe understand a little bit. Beyond that are things I don't comprehend, but I trust that these higher levels are worth the trouble. The men and women who have reached the highest level of the Known are unknowns, very humble people who intentionally vanish from the ordinary world, maybe by hiding in plain sight. They have powerful effects upon the world, but in very subtle ways, guiding rather than forcing issues. My living and physical Elders are that sort of people. I like the way an old Taoist described this level of life to a student of his.

"I might be anywhere," he said. "I might be anything. I might be a hummingbird on the wing, or a monkey's fart. I might be a tear of compassion in a sailor's eye."

Which brings us back again to the power of little things, like the farts of monkeys and the flight of a hummingbird.
 
hi guys,

first time here.

Interesting subject the third eye hey. I first heard of it when I was a kid, my grandmother put my on to a series of Lobsang Rhumpas books. IN it he talks of third eye training including the use of hammering a silver wedge in to the forehead this being to help with the opening of the eye.

IN my experience with the third eye I have found it to be tricky business and would not recommend any one trying to "open" it with out some pretty heavy support structures.

The biggest problem is that you may accidently achieve alot more than you bargain for ( again my experience)


It needs to be understood that the third eye is in fact you, your imagination and that the universe is essentially just that imagination. I might add the universe will protect itself against unwarranted "opening" and only very strong grounding and selfless motivation will protect the eye'ee from a universal reaction that can be very debilitating. ( again my experience)

I have met people who have some how learnt to "Zap" people and this is further mitigated with powerful sexual urges. (the Kunnalindi aspect)

They suffer big problems through their ignorance and inability due to poor discipline and motive. (their life is in ruins, psych wards etc)

Tensing or trying too hard is a big problem and the motivation and intent is very important.
 
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