Star Trek - did you know?

Pinball1970 said:
No it was more like Star Trek meets IPA Hazy.
Click to expand...
That actually works though--the guitar portions in Spaghetti Western scores always have a sort slow, languorous, drunken feel to them.

I never really cared for that theme, vastly prefer some other sci fi themes from the era--Lost in Space is great (before John Williams went to shit), but the Doctor Who theme is the all time great. Grainer's little tune would have just been mediocre though without all of Delia Derbyshire's ingenuity.

 
parmalee said:
That actually works though--the guitar portions in Spaghetti Western scores always have a sort slow, languorous, drunken feel to them
Click to expand...
I know this is off topic but if you get a chance to check out the Danish Orchestra version of "Good bad and the Ugly" is absolutely stunning.
 
Pinball1970 said:
On that I agree, the synths they had at that time would have filled my basement.
Click to expand...
Yeah, mostly surplus military equipment--and it all weighed shit-tons.

Derbyshire actually left the Radiophonic Workshop partly due to disillusionment with the more modern (for the time, of course) equipment they accrued, like the EMS VCS3 and a more modular unit, iirc. I think she was cool with the mellotrons though, given the more "organic", i.e., more electro-mechanical than just purely electronic, nature of it's sound production.

I've known a couple of people who worked with her decades later and she was really fantastic. Unfortunately, she died due to chronic alcoholism.
 
parmalee said:
That actually works though--the guitar portions in Spaghetti Western scores always have a sort slow, languorous, drunken feel to them.

I never really cared for that theme, vastly prefer some other sci fi themes from the era--Lost in Space is great (before John Williams went to shit), but the Doctor Who theme is the all time great. Grainer's little tune would have just been mediocre though without all of Delia Derbyshire's ingenuity.

Click to expand...
 
Pinball1970 said:
I know this is off topic but if you get a chance to check out the Danish Orchestra version of "Good bad and the Ugly" is absolutely stunning.
Click to expand...
I'll check that out. Morricone's stuff from that period always has a weird "feel" to it, like the timing and tempos seem rather unconventional.
 
Pinball1970 said:
Click to expand...
Damn, that vocal stuff is crazy! Both the soloists and the choir, that is.

They manage to get that sound that you hear on certain recordings from the era--a number of Billy Strange productions for Lee Hazlewood and some stuff on Scott Walker's 4th album, for instance. I've never been able to work out what it is, but it's to do with the nature of the reverb on the vocal stuff and I don't know if it has more to do with the venue in which it was recorded, the particular mics and micing techniques or some sort of plate reverb or something.
 
Actually Delia Derbyshire was admitted to both Oxford and Cambridge on maths scholarship. She probably should have been on Star Trek, I bet she would have worked out the intricacies of time travel better than Spock did.
 
parmalee said:
Damn, that vocal stuff is crazy! Both the soloists and the choir, that is.

They manage to get that sound that you hear on certain recordings from the era--a number of Billy Strange productions for Lee Hazlewood and some stuff on Scott Walker's 4th album, for instance. I've never been able to work out what it is, but it's to do with the nature of the reverb on the vocal stuff and I don't know if it has more to do with the venue in which it was recorded, the particular mics and micing techniques or some sort of plate reverb or something.
Click to expand...
They changed a few things but the overall sound is just great. See the blond soprano smiling when she is singing? That must have been a lot of fun.
The solo soprano takes the later trumpet part and that piano I think is a guitar.
The original is a bit muffled, 1966?
 
Pinball1970 said:
I don't understand that, I thought that p electron would not form a covalent bond, what about all those other empty p orbitals? Why would that be stable?
Perhaps another discussion, my knowledge of bonds is a lower than yours, somewhat.
Click to expand...
Well there can be exceptions to the "octet rule". A good example is many boron compounds. Boron forms covalent compounds, in which it does not fill its octet, as to do so would give it too strongly a -ve charge. So it forms so-called "electron deficient" compounds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_deficiency

But sure these diatomic gases of alkali metals are not very stable, where they exist at all.
 
parmalee said:
Jerzy Skolimowski's The Shout, with Susannah York and Alan Bates, is an uncanny masterpiece. Bookended by a cricket match in an insane asylum, it tells the story of a weirdo drifter (Bates) who learned a special shout from an indigenous Australian shaman that kills everyone in the general vicinity, or something like that. He hangs at the home of some composer/sound designer (John Hurt), with a VCS3 and a fondness for the work of Francis Bacon, and his wife (York), who recreates a crazy Bacon painting, and all kinds of shenanigans ensue.

Click to expand...
Coincidence.
The Shout. Alan Bates shouting results in sheep falling over dead.

In what film does Alan Bates dog chase a flock of sheep over a cliff?


 
foghorn said:
Coincidence.
The Shout. Alan Bates shouting results in sheep falling over dead.

In what film does Alan Bates dog chase a flock of sheep over a cliff?


Click to expand...
Thos Hardy's "Far from the Madding Crowd". With Julie Christie.

I thought the sheep-popping scene was the best. Though I'm told it was not realistic.
 
exchemist said:
Thos Hardy's "Far from the Madding Crowd". With Julie Christie.

I thought the sheep-popping scene was the best. Though I'm told it was not realistic.
Click to expand...
Julie Christie and Alfreda Benge doing the naughty bits narrative here:


(It starts about midway through.) I always thought it was supposed to be two women, but apparently the incel sort (who's to take off his trousers), voiced by Benge, is male.

And Matching Mole is a rendering of machine muelle, or Soft Machine, as it was Robert Wyatt's band post-canning from Soft Machine the year prior. The Wyatts--mom, a BBC presenter, and pop, a clinical psychologist--were friends of Robert Graves, author of the story upon which The Shout was based, whose place in Majorca was a frequent vacationing spot for young Robert Wyatt.
 
parmalee said:
The Star Trek theme played slowly, drenched in reverb and with some slap-back echo would sound nice--kinda Star Trek meets Firefly maybe?
Click to expand...
This is where hard cases come in handy. Once I had done the guitar up in 2020 I named her Emily. The E string is now buzzing on the fret so she is all out of shape.

IMG_20250505_203918_551.jpg
 
Pinball1970 said:
Ok, it's "where no MAN has gone before." Also his voice should be higher.
Click to expand...
That puts me in mind of this, somewhat ahem earlier, song "When first Amintas sued for a kiss" , about the seduction of a shepherdess, the final phrase of which is "....[he] touched the shore where never merchant went before....."


They were quite naughty in the c.18th. (The singer here seems to have chosen to get into the spirit of it all by not wearing a bra.)
 
Last edited:
Pinball1970 said:
I thought they were a crap power ballad band from the 1980s? Caught between Wet Wet Wet, Brian Adams, Bonnie Tyler, Bon Jovi and pretty much all American music, I thought the beautiful world of music had come to an end before I was 21.
It was a tough time.
Click to expand...
Ha! I had not heard of them, or forgotten them. Anyway, Celia Lovsky plays the Vulcan dignitary T'Pau who oversees the death match in "Amok Time" (where Spock gets incredibly horny and has to return to Vulcan to take a bride). Lovsky also plays some sort of wise elder (librarian?) in Soylent Green who confirms the nature of the mystery protein that is added to SG and that it's not (as popularly believed) plankton since the oceans are in fact dead.

Trek fans may remember Amok Time as the episode which concludes with Spock having an emotional moment when he discovers that Kirk's death was only simulated.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top