We never went to the moon.

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FatFreddy said:
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First of all - that spurstalk website is flagged as a phishing risk by Chrome... so not going there.


FatFreddy said:
If the moon footage was fakable, that must have been faked too. All we had were news reports so they only had to lie.
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I cannot prove you exist - you could just be a chatbot designed to irritate anyone trying to talk to it. Therefore, by your logic, you don't exist.


FatFreddy said:
You're just playing games here. You're comparing the faking of lunar gravity with the faking of weightlessness. Here's something else you should check out.
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So you don't see the disconnect... unfortunate.

FatFreddy said:
That was pretty lame. You don't seem mentally equipped to deal with this topic. The footage and pictures are full of anomalies that wouldn't be there if they'd really gone to the moon.
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By compare, I would say you are not mentally equipped to handle the truth. Why does it scare you so much that we have been to the moon?
 
Kittamaru said:
Why does it scare you so much that we have been to the moon?
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That is an excellent question. I would be fascinated by FF's answer. Unfortunately, I suspect he does not know exactly why it bothers him and would have a difficult time adequately expressing his feelings on the matter.

If only he could find a Youtube video to explain it...:wink:
 
FatFreddy said:
This one is similar but I haven't been able to update it. Some of the links might be dead.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio.347662/
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It looks like you received quite a thrashing on that forum as well... so far, colour me unimpressed.

Perhaps I should ask another question -

If we were to go to the moon now, what would you require as evidence to prove this? Would modern hi-definition video be sufficient, or would you need "external" validation (and if so, what would you accept?)
 
I see on that other site that you also apparently claim the Mars missions were faked.
 
Kittamaru said:
I see on that other site that you also apparently claim the Mars missions were faked.
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Hmmm, I rather thought he would be one of the nutters pointing at a picture of a rock from the rover and saying it was a Martian.
 
FatFreddy said:
By whom? People who work for NASA? That was a pretty lame thing to say.
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There's thousands of tbem. Are they all in on it 50 years later!? How many over the years is that.

Are you referring to the press? The press would just parrot the official story as would science journals. It's all owned.
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What bullshit you come out with. This would be the story of the millennium. There isn't a publication on the planet who would by go to town on this. You are full of it.

Regarding your spam links. If you don't read the debunks, you aren't a truther. But we all know you aren't one anyway. You are really quite mad.

Your nemesises Windley and Betamax have totally killed You, but you give moronic excuses and obfuscation. You're going to do it again in reply to this.

http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/?m=1
http://Clavius.org

In addition, Betamax101 has numerous videos that you are afraid to go near. You really ARE a despicable fraud.
 
David C said:
There's thousands of them. Are they all in on it 50 years later!? How many over the years is that.
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Don't forget the Russian are in on it too! They monitored the all of the information on the Apollo missions and never 'spilled the beans' on the hoax. I wonder if we paid them to be in on the hoax or they are just part of the secret one world government.

I know, they agreed not to tell anyone that the moon landing was a hoax and in return we said they could influence our election in 2016 to whom ever they wanted elected.
 
Kittamaru said:
I see on that other site that you also apparently claim the Mars missions were faked.
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I'm not one hundred percent sure of that but I'd bet they were faked.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=MarsFaker:+Phoenix+Rising
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=MarsFaker:+Se7en+Minutes+Of+Propaganda

Curiosity Rover is a fake. Road on Mars

It certainly would not disprove that we have collected rock samples of the moon as witnessed and confirmed by personal observation.
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By whom? People who work for NASA? That was a pretty lame thing to say.
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There's thousands of tbem. Are they all in on it 50 years later!? How many over the years is that.
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See post #475.
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/we-never-went-to-the-moon.145207/page-24#post-3475571

Are you referring to the press? The press would just parrot the official story as would science journals. It's all owned.
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What bullshit you come out with. This would be the story of the millennium. There isn't a publication on the planet who would by go to town on this. You are full of it.
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I linked to this a while back but I'd better post the whole thing as a lot of people don't seem to be seeing it.
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At about the 30 minute mark of this video a scientist says that science fraud is common.


Scientists at the Rand Corporation say that depleted uranium is safe.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/docs/b04151999_bt170-99.htm

There are other scientists who say the opposite.
http://www.google.es/search?q=depleted uranium&tbs=vid:1


It's clear that the government can find scientists willing to sell out and lie.

Here's a scientists who says that it's impossible to get something published in a science journal if it goes against the official version.
(00:16 time mark)

Here's another case of official mainstream journals publishing untrue information.
(1:36:40 time mark)


If someone tried to blow the whistle, the press would ignore him or her.
http://www.thismodernworld.org/arc/1993/93short-attention-span.gif
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=chomsky media&aq=f
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5rdRlOSBoY
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/MediaControl_Chomsky.html
http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199710--.htm
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/media_watch.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Propaganda/Propaganda_page.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media_control_propaganda/Media_Control.html
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/official_culture.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=trWcqxrQgcc
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Herman /Propaganda_System_One.html

Here's some evidence that it might even be downright dangerous to try to come forward with the truth.
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfYBJFPuiwE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipKyUVuQ2Uk
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=9/11 witnesses mysterious deaths

We are lied to about history.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/american-imperialism.371897/
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Your nemesises Windley and Betamax have totally killed You, but you give moronic excuses and obfuscation. You're going to do it again in reply to this.
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They have the attitude that they're killing me but what they actually say would get them laughed out of the debating hall.
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/we-never-went-to-the-moon.145207/page-22#post-3475145
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/we-never-went-to-the-moon.145207/page-23#post-3475266


Don't forget the Russian are in on it too! They monitored the all of the information on the Apollo missions and never 'spilled the beans' on the hoax. I wonder if we paid them to be in on the hoax or they are just part of the secret one world government.
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http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
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Proponents of the Apollo hoax suggest that the Soviet Union, and latterly Russia, and the United States were allied in the exploration of space, during the Cold war and after. The United States and the former Soviet Union today routinely engage in cooperative space ventures, as do many other nations that are popularly believed to be enemies. However, this suggestion is challenged by the impression of intense international competition that was under way during the Cold War and is not supported by the accounts of participants on either side of the Iron Curtain. Many argue that the fact that the Soviet Union and other Communist bloc countries, eager to discredit the United States, have not produced any contrary evidence to be the single most significant argument against such a hoax. Soviet involvement might also implausibly multiply the scale of the conspiracy, to include hundreds of thousands of conspirators of uncertain loyalty
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http://libcom.org/history/articles/cold-war-1940-1989?quicktabs_1=0
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On the domestic front, the Cold War helped the Soviet Union entrench its military-bureaucratic ruling class in power, and it gave the US a way to compel its population to subsidise high-tech industry. It isn't easy to sell all that to the domestic populations. The technique used was the old stand-by-fear of a great enemy.
 
origin said:
Don't forget the Russian are in on it too! They monitored the all of the information on the Apollo missions and never 'spilled the beans' on the hoax. I wonder if we paid them to be in on the hoax or they are just part of the secret one world government.

I know, they agreed not to tell anyone that the moon landing was a hoax and in return we said they could influence our election in 2016 to whom ever they wanted elected.
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Don't forget the British, Australians and Spanish etc. amongst the MSFN who tracked the craft to and from the Moon.

The post above is spam of the worst kind. Basically he just cuts and pastes that idiotic drivel from one place and splatters it on here. Pathetic.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q="...indow=1&safe=active&filter=0&biw=1600&bih=775

It seems futile arguing with delusion.
 
FatFreddy said:
I'm not one hundred percent sure of that but I'd bet they were faked.
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You pathetic person.

I linked to this a while back but I'd better post the whole thing as a lot of people don't seem to be seeing it.
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The totally bullshit excuse to just spam it again.

http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/whistleblowers-governments-and-lies.html


They have the attitude that they're killing me but what they actually say would get them laughed out of the debating hall.
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Listen carefully. You are too ignorant to find the debating hall. You wouldn't even get in if you did. They totally obliterated your wall of spam and NOBODY agrees with your idiotic opinion.
To reiterate, if it came out that the United States had faked the Moon landings, the entire press, of the entire world would have a field day. They are in the business to sell newspapers.

Russia would have shouted the loudest, your moronic spam excuse is ridiculous opinion.
 
Ever notice how people who buy into one conspiracy theory so often start to accept virtually every conspiracy theory? The moon landing was faked. Elvis is alive. JFK's assassination was an inside job (not to mention Diana's ahem assassination). The government is hiding UFOs and getting advanced technology from studying them, but not sufficiently advanced to send a spacecraft to the moon of course. The illuminati control the world. Wi-fi is messing with your brain and we all need tin foil hats. And so on and so forth.
 
David C said:
Don't forget the British, Australians and Spanish etc. amongst the MSFN who tracked the craft to and from the Moon.
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That's what we read but is it true? Go back to my last post and get informed about the media. Haven't you heard the theory that the US and European governments are all under the control of a group of rich people?
https://www.globalresearch.ca/search?q=bilderberg&x=15&y=16
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bilderberg

If that turns out to be true, that would explain their not blowing the whistle.
 
FatFreddy said:
That's what we read but is it true? Go back to my last post and get informed about the media. Haven't you heard the theory that the US and European governments are all under the control of a group of rich people?
https://www.globalresearch.ca/search?q=bilderberg&x=15&y=16
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bilderberg

If that turns out to be true, that would explain their not blowing the whistle.
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You also believe in the "new world order" and the "deep state"... don't you
 
Here's something I just came across.

http://www.aulis.com/moonbase2014.htm
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Radiation beyond Low-Earth Orbit Regarding the radiation limits for travelling beyond LEO, ‘NASA relies on external guidance from the National Academy of Sciences and the National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements (NCRP) for establishing dose limits. Due to the lack of data and knowledge, the NAS and NCRP recommended that radiation limits for exploration missions could not be determined until new science data and knowledge [were] obtained.’ (Arch. Study, 2005 p.109) The next year, in swift response to NASA's request, the NCRP produced a report with a title to puzzle an unprepared reader: Information Needed to Make Radiation Protection Recommendations for Space Missions Beyond Low-Earth Orbit (NCRP, 2006). By this, the NAS admits that there is no substantial information available on cosmic radiation beyond LEO, including data on lunar surface radiation, despite the alleged achievements of Apollo.
 
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