Believing in nothing - Suzuki

Michael 345 said:
Whhhhaaaaattttt?

This
  • Sounds deep, mysterious and somehow philosophical wise or
  • As deep as the dirt on the soles of my feet, weird and as wise as previously mentioned dirt
take your pick

My take on the Original Post is that it is hard to believe in NOTHING when surrounded by SOMETHING

Thinking about the concept of nothing is another animal

:)



Nice one √

Belief in NOTHING generates something which negates the NOTHING

Good one √

Wish I could pat me on the back for that insight

:)
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Agreed

We have though , lost our way .
 
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river said:
Agreed

We have though , lost our way .
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Never been sure if I ever had a way let alone being aware I have lost one

:)

I do know I have never lost NOTHING

Frequently lost SOMETHING

Makes me hard to believe in NOTHING since I never had, never lost, never been given

:)
 
Xelasnave.1947 said:
Give a po box and I will send you nothing.
Alex
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My PO Box is already full of NOTHING thanks for the generous offer

(I'm discounting the air)

But as I have never been able to extract the NOTHING I still consider I don't not have NOTHING

You might be able to help me with what I think is SOMETHING which may be related to NOTHING

NUFFINK

Is NUFFINK a new species related to NOTHING or variation of breed?

:)
 
Xelasnave.1947 said:
An absence of something that could reasonably expected to be there, money in the bank, beers in the fridge, messages on the phone.
"I looked in da fridge an NUFFINK" often "sweet FA" maybe added as a qualification of specific absence.
Alex
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So a breed version

If you breed them you get a

NoFink or a NuffThing

Interesting

:)
 
Rather than saying you 'believe' in nothing which is a bit of a contentious word to use, you could say 'I acknowledge that nothing exists, including myself'.

But even then - the acknowledgement has built into it a 3rd party which hints at/indicates a 'something' is in existence that has the ability to even contemplate such abstract thought processes.
 
If you believe in nothing, you will use the least amount of brain power for thinking. One does not have to think about anything since there is nothing to think about. The belief in something, takes more thinking power. If you believe in the integration of everything, this takes even more thinking power.

If you turn off thinking, what is left? What is left is feeling and sensory sensations. One is living in the moment, reacting to stimulus and acting on impulse and instincts, with little concern of how and why.
 
wellwisher said:
If you turn off thinking, what is left? What is left is feeling and sensory sensations. One is living in the moment, reacting to stimulus and acting on impulse and instincts, with little concern of how and why.
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You may gain a lot by this - being free from past hurts and future anxieties, but you also lose a lot. The pleasant anticipation of returning home to a loved one. Bittersweet memories of something past, but wonderful to recall. Hope and ambitions of what you wish to do in life and the direction you wish to take and much more.

On the flip side you save yourself a lot of heart ache if you live only in the moment.

A middle road perhaps is best? living in the moment when you can, whilst planning for the future when you must, and recalling the past in order to learn from it.
 
wellwisher said:
If you believe in nothing, you will use the least amount of brain power for thinking.
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For the most part, no.

It may be true that during rest and relaxation, the brain uses slightly less calories than when in an active, alert state. But generally speaking, the brain is using a fairly constant number of calories all the time, no matter what you are thinking about.

https://www.quora.com/Does-the-brain-consume-more-calories-when-we-think-harder

Which fits in with my brain only using 2 Joules a week and while I don't loose weight when I try to think hard

:)
 
fogpipe said,

One of the nice things about believing in nothing is that it doesnt conflict with believing in quantum physics, evolution, or what ever stretch of incredulity your culture imposes :)
Whatever you know, have it come from your own mind.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/thai/dune/giftsheleft.html
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So we can do away with eyes and ears and schools and libraries as being useless in the pursuit of knowledge?
If this tenet is followed, why would you open your OP with a lengthy philosophical argument?
Do I need to know all that to learn how to have that philosophy come to me spontaneously?

btw. Buddha (a prince), in his effort to conquer "suffering" practiced asceticism until he was near death. He was actually saved by a girl offering him a bowl of food, which immediately relieved his suffering.
From that simple gesture Buddha came to the conclusion that a well balanced life of moderation in all things brings a necessary balance between suffering and comfort.

But for the mind to "know" anything, it needs information. Information is gathered by our senses. To know nothing results only in an empty mind, incapable of creating insight into anything.

It is easy to speak of insight. But insight is gained by observing and learning things from different perspectives as Roger Antonsen persuasively demonstrates..

Of course I agree to the concept of meditation and contemplation. It allows us to place things into a proper perspective.
 
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