Are You A Quantum Creationist?

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Eugene Shubert said:
William Lane Craig and Alexander Vilenkin handsomely refute your error in this short video:
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are you working in a lab or a project site ?
are you an actual qualified scientist ?
or is all this coming only from links you have clicked on ?
 
It's obvious that Shubert has made up the term quantum creationism, made up the definition of his made up term, and applied it willy nilly where ever he wishes. He ascribes statements to people that were not made by them, purely to advance his religious arguments. There can be no rational discussion under such conditions , and indeed there none occurring here.
 
Eugene Shubert said:
So you're admitting that you don't know much about English grammar? The word quantum in "quantum creationism" is a modifier. I can make it modify the word "creationism" any way I want.
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How childish and pointless. I could equally ask you "Are you gay?" And what would your answer be, I wonder?
 
At least it's nice to see this nonsensical rabid God bothering creationist and his diatribe finally shifted to somewhere more appropriate.
 
Eugene Shubert said:
Are you admitting to not understanding what Prof. Alexander Vilenkin means by "quantum creation"?
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Certainly not what you are imagining it to be. Nice try though. Your magical pixie in the sky should be pleased with your efforts, even though they have now been deservedly shifted to the fringes.
One more floor to go though: Cesspool!
 
Whoa! We're already six pages deep. This definitely calls for a poll :). Eugene, I took the liberty of forwarding your OP along with a link to the thread to a few prominent Physicists. Here's what they said:

Professor Alexander Vilenkin said:
Eugene Shubert said:
A quantum creationist is a believer in quantum creationism. Quantum creationism is any happenstance or intentional creation event where a highly ordered physical reality spontaneously materializes out of nothingness.

For example, Prof. Alexander Vilenkin, Director, Institute of Cosmology at Tufts University, is a quantum creationist.
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Hi Tashja,

I guess, by this very broad definition, you could call me a quantum
creationist. But note that quantum creation of the universe that I am
talking about is described by the laws of physics. And when I write about
it, I write "nothing" in quotation marks. The reason is that the laws of
physics are assumed to exist "prior" to the universe. And this is far
from being "nothing" in the literal sense.

Best wishes,

Alex V
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Professor David Z. Albert said:
No, I'm not.
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Professor Lee Smolin said:
No, I don't believe that the universe or anything in it spontaneously arise from nothing.

Lee Smolin
Perimeter Institute
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tashja said:
I took the liberty of forwarding your OP along with a link to the thread to a few prominent Physicists. Here's what they said:
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I find it interesting that all the physicists you contacted had nothing to say about Alexander Vilenkin's extraordinary three minute video and that Lee Smolin cared so little about your misrepresentation that he didn't even bother replying with a grammatically correct sentence.
 
Eugene Shubert said:
I find it interesting that all the physicists you contacted had nothing to say about Alexander Vilenkin's extraordinary three minute video and that Lee Smolin cared so little about your misrepresentation that he didn't even bother replying with a grammatically correct sentence.
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Misrepresentaion? :D Pot, Kettle, Black comes to mind.
What a fraud!
 
Eugene Shubert said:
What fraud? Didn't Professor Alexander Vilenkin also profess to be a quantum creationist?
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Yes what a fraud! In fact what a liar!
What Prof Vilenkin said in context.....
I guess, by this very broad definition, you could call me a quantum
creationist. But note that quantum creation of the universe that I am
talking about is described by the laws of physics. And when I write about
it, I write "nothing" in quotation marks. The reason is that the laws of
physics are assumed to exist "prior" to the universe. And this is far
from being "nothing" in the literal sense.

He certainly is not meaning what you are inferring, so yeah, what a fraud and what a liar to boot.
Your evangelistic mission here has failed, as most evangelistic missions based on lies and misrepresentations fail. sorry.
 
I can see God not granting Neil deGrasse Tyson his request and instead deciding that Mr. Tyson must be consumed by fire. Likewise, I can see Richard Feynman dying twice. “I'd hate to die twice. It's so boring.” -- Richard P. Feynman.
 
paddoboy said:
Yes what a fraud! In fact what a liar!
What Prof Vilenkin said in context.....
But note that quantum creation of the universe that I am
talking about is described by the laws of physics. And when I write about
it, I write "nothing" in quotation marks. The reason is that the laws of
physics are assumed to exist "prior" to the universe. And this is far
from being "nothing" in the literal sense.
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I didn't say anything on this thread about what came before the creation event. So how could this possibly contradict what I've written?
 
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