9/11 Poll

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Who was responsible for 9/11?

  1. 1- The official story regarding 9/11 is the sacred truth. Questioning it is blasphemous.

    2 vote(s)
    2.2%

  2. 2- The official story regarding 9/11 is more or less right. No need to investigate further.

    39 vote(s)
    43.3%

  3. 3- The official story regarding 9/11 is questionable in some areas.

    18 vote(s)
    20.0%

  4. 4- EoG (Elements of the Government) let 9/11 happen.

    2 vote(s)
    2.2%

  5. 5- EoG let 9/11 happen. EoG prevented the investigation of certain individuals before 9/11.

    6 vote(s)
    6.7%

  6. 6- EoG, perhaps in the form of a secret society, made 9/11 happen.

    16 vote(s)
    17.8%

  7. 7- Other

    7 vote(s)
    7.8%
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  1. Tony Szamboti

    Tony Szamboti Registered Senior Member

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    The regular floors outside the core had a 4.35 inch thick concrete slab on a corrugated floor pan supported by a truss network. Inside the core the slab thickness ranged from 4.35 to 5.5 inches.

    The mechanical floors had a 6 inch concrete slab on a corrugated floor pan, both inside and outside the core, and were supported by I-beams outside the core at floors 41, 43, 75, and 77.
     
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  3. scott3x

    scott3x Banned Banned

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    Good reading, thanks

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    . The second one I'd read most of already, because it comes from the part of Crossfire that I'd read, but it had a bit more and the picture of the umbrella close to JFK's car was the best I've seen.
     
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  5. scott3x

    scott3x Banned Banned

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    Nice

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    . But it seems I'm not looking at the same paper from Harrit or atleast not the same version, because I see no page numbers...
     
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    scott3x Banned Banned

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    And I'm lost again. Just when I thought I knew the score :-/.
     
    scott3x, Jul 6, 2009
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  8. Trippy

    Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    Cool.

    My point being however that the volume of concrete is known, and calculable.
     
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  9. Trippy

    Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    The score is:
    1. Harrits Submicron aluminium rich plates produce a XEDS spectra indentical to other submicron alumina plates.
    2. Harrit aknowldeges that Zinc, Chromium, and Magnesium are found in the chips before MEK treatment.
    3. Almost everywhere there is Silicon, there is also Aluminium, and Oxygen.
    4. Everywhere there is aluminium, there is Oxygen.
    5. The aluminium rich platets do not react with the MEK inspite of the fact that the seperation of them from the silicon rich areas implies they were directly in contact with it.

    All of the above are consistent with the paint chip interpretation.
     
    Trippy, Jul 6, 2009
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  10. scott3x

    scott3x Banned Banned

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    Not exactly. As far as I know, the person who has done the most to try to figure out the amount of concrete in the towers is Jerry Russell. I personally asked him, after an initial estimate of 650,000 tons, how he had arrived at his updated figure of 90,000 tons. Here is his response:
    http://crookedshepherds.wordpress.c...on-overflight-concept-vindicated/#comment-624
     
    scott3x, Jul 6, 2009
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  11. Tony Szamboti

    Tony Szamboti Registered Senior Member

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    I agree with that concerning the concrete.
     
    Tony Szamboti, Jul 6, 2009
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  12. Trippy

    Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    Just before anybody points it out.

    I haven't commented on relative amounts as far as Zn, Cr and Mg go.
    I also haven't looked into relative amounts.
     
    Trippy, Jul 6, 2009
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  13. Trippy

    Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    Great.

    But I was talking about Volume not mass.
     
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  14. scott3x

    scott3x Banned Banned

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    I see. I guess I'll have to wait for my truth movement buddies to answer that (hopefully in a civil way ;-)).
     
    scott3x, Jul 6, 2009
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  15. scott3x

    scott3x Banned Banned

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    Ah ok. Didn't this all start with psikey though? From what I remember, he wants to know the mass, not the volume.
     
    scott3x, Jul 6, 2009
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  16. KennyJC

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    IT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE THE PAINT!

    It's no wonder the truth movement died...
     
    KennyJC, Jul 6, 2009
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  17. KennyJC

    KennyJC Registered Senior Member

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    I have absolutely no wish to read any of your ramblings on the subject. You have not made one honest statement anywhere in this forum that I am aware of.

    Jim Marrs is a respected authority in honest investigation now? Respectable to who? Nutbars like yourself? You.. who thinks we have video footage of a fire truck being englufed in molten steel?
     
    KennyJC, Jul 6, 2009
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  18. capslockf9

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    What lies the US gov'ment dont lie.
    Forget about - George Bush Sr. lied about Iran-Contra Ronald Reagan lied like a nasty old rug about Iran and aiding the Contras also , Lyndon Johnson lied about the Gulf of Tonkin to gain support for the Vietnam war.
     
    capslockf9, Jul 6, 2009
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  19. leopold

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    i believe i also read in harritts paper that when he compared the results of the red/grey chips to the results of prepared thermite test samples the comparison did not match.

    does anybody remember the post in which harritts paper is presented or has a link to the paper?
    i believe headspin posted it, not sure though.
     
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  20. leopold

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    if psikey cannot figure out the mass of a known substance from its volume then he has no business constructing WTC models
     
    leopold, Jul 6, 2009
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  21. leopold

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    both of these could in fact be carried out without the presidents knowledge or approval.
     
    leopold, Jul 6, 2009
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  22. scott3x

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    Hey capslock; welcome to the thread

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  23. scott3x

    scott3x Banned Banned

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    If you don't like my writing, by all means don't read it. It'd be nice if you'd quit with all the distracting insults as well, but I guess that might be hoping for more than you can deliver.
     
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