Skinwalker banning Scifes unacceptable

i already said i dont see any distinctions between religions in the religion forum. what more do you want me to say? i dont talk negatively about anyones beliefs but some people dont particularly care for religion so to them it is not really an issue. there are also plenty of negative things said about atheists here too.

numerous members who were non muslim have been banned for 'preaching' and longer than scifes one day ban. i dont set the policy here, if it were my forum i would dump the religion forum altogether.

I have been here since 2003 and never have I seen one group treated in quite this way.
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anyone who comes here and preaches gets the same treatment, or worse. this is what i have seen, if you have not noticed that then i cant figure out why.

Americans are pretty stupid but think that's entirely you're fault
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its pretty obvious how you feel. even when foley comes around but i dont hold grudges against someone like him.
 
John I didn't mention anything about people preaching. If you read my posts in this thread you will see that I said preaching is unexceptable here and best reserved for private one on one for those who are interested in learning about a new religion. What I did address was Diamonds issue on how he was made to feel by a mod who used his religion as a poking point when giving him a warning.

Again you fall wide of the point, try and galvanize the brain cells will ya. Just because you don't see any distinction in treatment doesn't mean it isn't happening. I never mentioned it until I saw it happening myself in more than one or two threads.
 
you said many things. there is NO distinction, just read the mods posts and you see that he doesnt favor ANY religions. you probably look for these and dont notice anything else.
 
John99 said:
and Draqon IS American.
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So then he should know right? :D

John: you said many things. there is NO distinction, just read the mods posts and you see that he doesnt favor ANY religions. you probably look for these and dont notice anything else.

Ok now go and take your lazy ass and find the post where I said that skinwalker or any mod favors any particular religon

Learn to respond to what I am saying and not what you think I am saying.
 
Originally Posted by inzomnia
. As Sun Tzu wrote:

If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War


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scifes:
one of the best quotes i've come across..
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was that quote from a sociopath? never read the whack job.
 
Why would I answer any personal questions from someone like you? I mean especially you, you're a fly. And what how does it pertain to the thread in question dum dum? (and trust me when I say I'm not the only one who thinks so).
 
Lucysnow said:
Well I agree with you here, I notice there is a willingness by some members to demonize Muslims or Islam in a way that would be considered outrageous if it were directed towards any other group.
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muslims on this board do the same thing in regard to america.
muslims have absolutely no right whatsoever to complain in this regard.
 
Lucysnow said:
John99 said:
First of all sending him a warning that starts with 'my Assalam Alaikum'
IS patronizing, what else could you infer from it? Secondly I don't think Scifes was banned because he was muslim. I was referring to a complaint Diamond had as to how he is treated. And yes I do see what SAM and Diamond have complained about on these boards, some of the things that have been said to them about themselves and their religion would have had members banned if it were said about blacks or jews or gays for example. I have seen it go down myself.
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this how muslims are able to spread their garbage lucy.
when the pile gets too deep they run under the umbrella of religion.
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leopold99 said:
scott3x said:
I guess the people in that particular thread generally lucked out.
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lucked out? for 31 pages?? come now scott, you can't be serious.
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Maybe he's keeping a low profile for now because of all the flack he's been getting here.


leopold99 said:
scott3x said:
The problem, I think, is when he's a bit more attentive to a thread. I have stated the 2 posts accompanied by warnings that he deleted of mine. Are you defending those deletions and warnings?
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it's a study in technique, i suggest you try it.
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I know the 'technique' perfectly well. Essentially, it goes like this:
1- Don't dare suggest the moderator is wrong.
2. The moderator is allowed to be hypocritical.

Not very hard to understand. Perhaps you enjoy moderators like this, but I don't and would rather simply not contribute where they 'moderate'.
 
leopold99 said:
muslims are cheaters and deceivers.
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I think I'll treat you to an excerpt from the speech of a prominent science fiction writer, Robert Heinlein, who passed away about 20 years ago. I think that the excerpt is absolutely golden, as it deals with 2 issues at once; anti semitism, which you'd probably agree is a problem, but by analogy, islamophobia as well. Here goes:
...a man who uses the scientific method cannot possibly be anti-Semitic. I have made that an illustration because it has caused a lot of trouble in the world lately. Why can't he be anti-Semitic? For a very simple reason: he doesn't have enough data, consequently he hasn't formed an opinion. Not matter how long he lives he can't hate all Jews, and unless he knows all Jews, he can't hate all Jews, because he doesn't form an opinion unless he has the data. It is possible for him to hate an individual Jew as it's possible for him to hate an individual Irishman or Rotarian or man or woman.

But he can't possibly be anti-Semitic. He can't hate all capitalists, he can't hate all unions, he can't hate all women- you can't be a woman-hater, not if you use the scientific method. You can't possibliy; you don't know all women...

By the same reasoning, it's very difficult for him to hate at all; and if you can just manage to keep hate out of your life (or a good portion of it- I can't keep it all out of my life myself. I've got to sit down and whip myself about the head and shoulder to get myself calmed down at times- but you can help yourself with this method)- if you can keep hate out of your life, you can keep from the difficulties and take care of yourself in a better fashion.​


leopold99 said:
the fact that islam has a very real political agenda proves that.
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Does christianity have an 'agenda'? First of all, religions aren't people, they're belief systems, which makes it difficult for them to have agendas. Secondly, religions like christianity and islam aren't some unified entitites; they're schismatic, meaning that they are actually sub divided into various sects. Apparently you're a christian, so I'm sure you know that there is no one person who is in charge of all christianity. Perhaps you are unaware of this, but the same is true in islam.


leopold99 said:
as soon as any american questions an aspect of political islam we are faced with our own constitution that disallows discrimination against religion.
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I haven't seen any problems with questioning islam. I've done it myself many times and there was a point where S.A.M. stated that she didn't want to talk to me anymore if I continued with it. Fortunately, we got over that, because I like S.A.M.

The problem is that Skinwalker is deleting posts and banning people simply because he disagrees with them. This isn't what a moderator is supposed to do I would think; from where I stand, a moderator is only supposed to ensure that there is civil discussion; he or she may contribute, as they do, but when they use their moderator power as a type of 'might as right' tool, we've got a problem.
 
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scott3x said:
Maybe he's keeping a low profile for now because of all the flack he's been getting here.
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i don't call "deleting and editing posts" maintaining a low profile.
the "low profile" ruse doesn't wash.
I know the 'technique' perfectly well. Essentially, it goes like this:
1- Don't dare suggest the moderator is wrong.
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you're a laugh scott.
you think for one minute if i thought a mod was wrong i wouldn't say anything?????? think again dude.
the major difference between me and you in this regard is that i take a measure of responsibility with my words. i believe i mentioned this before when i said "technique"
2. The moderator is allowed to be hypocritical.
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a mod says one thing but believes something else?
evidence?
 
scott3x said:
Does christianity have an 'agenda'?
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you conveniently left out the word political.
First of all, religions aren't people, they're belief systems, which makes it difficult for them to have agendas.
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tell that to your daughter when she is being legally forced to cover her face because she married a muslim.
or she's being beat on because some religion allows it.
bullshit scott

you might be comfortable with that, but i take great offense to it.
it's unconstitutional, but we can't use the constitution against religion can we?

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the above post was directed specifically to muslims and islam but it applies to all religions. you have about as much use in our courtrooms as battery acid does in baby food. keep your garbage out of our courtrooms.

(patiently awaits the subtleties.)
 
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