Are people inherently evil?

When calling Muslims terrorists and liars is done with immunity hundreds of times in this forum, how do you expect to get one person calling Atheists thieves banned? It should first be established how is it acceptable to say the first, only then can we have any opinion on the second.

Also, scifes you are too nice of a person. These people are basically heartless wolves, don't feel about about it. Someone who calls Muslims liars in every thread, and you who sarcastically called some atheist liars while they were insulting you. There is a vast difference between the two.
 
Calling Muslims terrorists and liars is not done with immunity hundreds of times in this forum.
Even IF it were, it's unrelated to calling the Irish thieves.
Since I was the specific 1 attempting to get something clear with him just prior to this, I must guess you're calling ME a heartless wolf. You need to support that or retract it.
 
(Q) said:
Of course, it isn't a given, but it does describe the difference between how a theist lives in fear of their god as opposed to reasoning the consequences of their actions.



No, they didn't, they were religious when they went in.
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And you know this...how? It's not uncommon for prisoners to "find" God/Allah/Odin or whatever while incarcerated.
 
people are not inherently evil

some people are just put in the position of survival , whether it be emotional or feeding themselves or both at the same time

its not a position they want to be in , it is though " their " reality in which they are in
 
So Hitler, or Stalin or Pol Pot, didn't actually want to be leaders?
They were just "forced" into that position?
The Yorkshire Ripper (or, I dunno, the Unabomber, or the Columbine shooters) were doing it purely out to survive?
 
scifes said:
why are you so mean??
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Indicators of a delusion

The following can indicate a delusion:[2]

The patient expresses an idea or belief with unusual persistence or force.
That idea appears to exert an undue influence on his or her life, and the way of life is often altered to an inexplicable extent.
Despite his/her profound conviction, there is often a quality of secretiveness or suspicion when the patient is questioned about it.
The individual tends to be humorless and oversensitive, especially about the belief.
There is a quality of centrality: no matter how unlikely it is that these strange things are happening to him, the patient accepts them relatively unquestioningly.
An attempt to contradict the belief is likely to arouse an inappropriately strong emotional reaction, often with irritability and hostility.
The belief is, at the least, unlikely.
The patient is emotionally over-invested in the idea and it overwhelms other elements of his psyche.
The delusion, if acted out, often leads to behaviors which are abnormal and/or out of character, although perhaps understandable in the light of the delusional beliefs.
Individuals who know the patient will observe that his belief and behavior are uncharacteristic and alien.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_disorder

Perhaps we should have a Mecca syndrome:

The Mecca syndrome is a group of mental phenomena involving the presence of either religiously themed obsessive ideas, delusions or other psychosis-like experiences that are triggered by, or lead to, a visit to the city of Mecca.
Based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_syndrome
 
swarm said:
Indicators of a delusion

The following can indicate a delusion:[2]

The patient expresses an idea or belief with unusual persistence or force.
That idea appears to exert an undue influence on his or her life, and the way of life is often altered to an inexplicable extent.
Despite his/her profound conviction, there is often a quality of secretiveness or suspicion when the patient is questioned about it.
The individual tends to be humorless and oversensitive, especially about the belief.
There is a quality of centrality: no matter how unlikely it is that these strange things are happening to him, the patient accepts them relatively unquestioningly.
An attempt to contradict the belief is likely to arouse an inappropriately strong emotional reaction, often with irritability and hostility.
The belief is, at the least, unlikely.
The patient is emotionally over-invested in the idea and it overwhelms other elements of his psyche.
The delusion, if acted out, often leads to behaviors which are abnormal and/or out of character, although perhaps understandable in the light of the delusional beliefs.
Individuals who know the patient will observe that his belief and behavior are uncharacteristic and alien.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_disorder

Perhaps we should have a Mecca syndrome:

The Mecca syndrome is a group of mental phenomena involving the presence of either religiously themed obsessive ideas, delusions or other psychosis-like experiences that are triggered by, or lead to, a visit to the city of Mecca.
Based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_syndrome
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:eek:
I'M SICK WHITH THE JERUSALIM SYNDROME..
:runaway:

science seems to understand this topic much..

so, what's the "scientific" cure..?:scratchin:
 
swarm said:
Leave.
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:bawl:
so you tell me of a sickness i have then tell me to leave??

why do you look so down at me??

you think i'm hopless enough for you not to try??

or are you afraid i posses the unlikely potential of fixing you instead?
 
Acid Cowboy said:
And you know this...how?
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Prison statistics, of course. They are readily available to anyone.

It's not uncommon for prisoners to "find" God/Allah/Odin or whatever while incarcerated.
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But, it's far more common to find prisoners who found God/Allah/whatever before they did the crime that put them in prison. In fact, based on those prison statistics, it's VERY common to the vast majority of prisoners.
 
S.A.M. said:
That must explain why communism is so popular with atheists. Because they don't believe in property rights. At least in theory.
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What must explain? What are you babbling about?
 
(Q) said:
Prison statistics, of course. They are readily available to anyone.
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Because parole boards like to hear about people finding God and repenting.


But, it's far more common to find prisoners who found God/Allah/whatever before they did the crime that put them in prison. In fact, based on those prison statistics, it's VERY common to the vast majority of prisoners.
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Evidence? 0.4% of the US population is declared atheist while 1% of prison population are atheists. Seems pretty representative.

http://www.atheistempire.com/reference/stats/main.html
http://www.skepticfiles.org/american/prison.htm
 
S.A.M. said:
Because parole boards like to hear about people finding God and repenting.
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Do you have a source or is that your personal opinion?




Evidence? 0.4% of the US population is declared atheist while 1% of prison population are atheists. Seems pretty representative.

http://www.atheistempire.com/reference/stats/main.html
http://www.skepticfiles.org/american/prison.htm
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"During 10 years in Sing-Sing, those executed for murder were 65% Catholics, 26% Protestants, 6% Hebrew, 2% Pagan, and less than 1/3 of 1% non-religious.

Dr. Christian, Superintendant of the NY State Reformatories, checked
22,000 prison inmates and found only 4 college graduates. In "Who's Who"
91% were college graduates, and he commented that "intelligence and
knowledge produce right living" and that "crime is the offspring of
superstition and ignorance."
 
People are inherently instinctual. That's whats up.

Manors, policies and society are cultivated to live in a certain way, which is interesting.
 
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