Sex Surrogate

a lot of wiseacre responses but why not a serious discussion about this?

There are very timid men in our society who very well could be 40 year old virgins. In all likelihood they would die of old age and never have sex. The therapist who is a professional would need to decide if indeed that was the case and recommend the woman mentioned, for example. He would recommend her because he knows she, also, is a professional and he may have even given instructions to her, not on sexual technique but in how to talk to the patient and how to deal him in general.

I have never heard of this type of professional therapy treatment, but it seems there is a need for it in some cases.

I am not one of those cases!:)

charles
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It is not just for people who are 40 year old virgins. But also for men and women who suffer from some disorders (eg. who feel uncomfortable about their bodies or their sexual prowess) to the point where they are unable to have sex and actually enjoy it.

Men who suffer from premature ejaculations, impotence, erectile difficulties, low to non-existent sex drives, etc can usually benefit from sex therapy which involves the use of a sex surrogate. So can people who have suffered from some form of sexual trauma or other from childhood to adulthood (eg. people who have been sexually abused and are now having intimacy issues). She's not just a paid hooker. She needs to work in conjunction with the therapist to help the client/patient overcome whatever issues they may be having.

If you really want to know more about sex therapy and why a sex surrogate might be needed, do a quick google search on it.

Sex Surrogate
 
I've thought about it more since I first posted. To be honest, I actually think this qualifies as prostitution--- albeit for a noteworthy cause, and within a "medically prescribed" format.

I don't imagine the clinical sex partner is going to do this for free. There is certainly going to be income involved as an employee of the clinic. Since the laws in many places make sex for money illegal, then the only way this therapy can be totally legitimate is if prostitution is decriminalized.

For some reason, I feel like I just committed a correlative fallacy in the paragraph above..... I always find these things later when I return to re-read the post hehe.
 
No, it's a psychological treatment that happens to incorporate sex, IMO.
Prostitution is just sex.
 
No, it's a psychological treatment that happens to incorporate sex, IMO.
Prostitution is just sex.

As far as I know, a prostitute is simply someone who engages in sex for money; I have never seen it defined anywhere as having to be exclusively for that purpose.
 
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prostitute

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n.

1. One who solicits and accepts payment for sex acts.
2. One who sells one's abilities, talent, or name for an unworthy purpose.

Well we're not talking about the second definition.
Prostitution is a crime because it's about sex for money.
No sex for money = no crime
Psychological treatment for money = no crime (Even if happens to incorporate sex some of the time).
 
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prostitute

Dictionary: pros·ti·tute (prŏs'tĭ-tūt', -tyūt') pronunciation

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n.

1. One who solicits and accepts payment for sex acts.
2. One who sells one's abilities, talent, or name for an unworthy purpose.

Well we're not talking about the second definition.
Prostitution is a crime because it's about sex for money.
No sex for money = no crime
Psychological treatment for money = no crime (Even if happens to incorporate sex some of the time).

The idea that one who 'solicits and accepts payments for sex acts' should be a crime is, in my view, one of the sadder facts of our current political culture. A sexual act can indeed involve psychological treatment and I'm glad that you agree on that point. However, even if the sex professional isn't a psychologist or registered therapist doesn't mean that it should therefore be considered a crime. Your definition actually proves my point as well: it only says what they must do:
solicit and accept money.

It doesn't say they can't be sex therapists or be a benefit in some way to the recipients of their services.
 
There's a difference between sex "involving" psychological treatment and such treatment involving sex: the main intent.
And it's the intent: sex for money (any incidental by-product being just that) that defines prostitution.
 
There's a difference between sex "involving" psychological treatment and such treatment involving sex: the main intent.
And it's the intent: sex for money (any incidental by-product being just that) that defines prostitution.

I think you're reading far too much into the definition of the term there Oli :p. Your definition was:
1. One who solicits and accepts payment for sex acts.

No mention of whether or not psychological treatment was involved, let alone whether the psychological treatment should have quotes to delineate questionable psychological treatment :). And sorry, but no bracketed part either :).
 
Um, the dictionary definition, and, AFAIK, the legal definition.

Sex for money.
That's prostitution.
Psychological treatment that happens to include sex is not SEX for money it's treatment for money, with added "benefits".
 
Um, the dictionary definition, and, AFAIK, the legal definition.

Sex for money.
That's prostitution.
Psychological treatment that happens to include sex is not SEX for money it's treatment for money, with added "benefits".

What do you think prostitutes are anyway, machines? They're human beings and they can and do at times form personal bonds with their clients. I don't see why what they do couldn't be considered as 'psychological treatment that happens to include sex'.
 
What do you think prostitutes are anyway, machines? They're human beings and they can and do at times form personal bonds with their clients. I don't see why what they do couldn't be considered as 'psychological treatment that happens to include sex'.

Does a prostitute work alongside and take notes for the therapist who is treating the "client"? Or are you suggesting that the therapist is some form of pimp?
 
What do you think prostitutes are anyway, machines? They're human beings and they can and do at times form personal bonds with their clients. I don't see why what they do couldn't be considered as 'psychological treatment that happens to include sex'.

They may form bonds.
But a prostitute is by definition someone who sells sex for money.
Not treatment, merely sexual services.
If they want to go down the route of being considered as offering psychological treatment then they should be regulated and have the relevant qualifications. (Some may well have, but only incidentally).
 
oh god people are dumb. ever herd of grevious bodly harm? think cutting someones chest open and removing the hearts arteries qualify? i just treated 2 pts who had just that done and there wasnt a cop to be seen. why? because doctors are alowed to do it if its a nessary treatment even ghough it would be a crime for joe blow. no different here.
 
scott3x said:
What do you think prostitutes are anyway, machines? They're human beings and they can and do at times form personal bonds with their clients. I don't see why what they do couldn't be considered as 'psychological treatment that happens to include sex'.

Does a prostitute work alongside and take notes for the therapist who is treating the "client"? Or are you suggesting that the therapist is some form of pimp?

I'm not getting into the pimp thing at all. I think that pimps mainly exist because of the illegality of prostitution. Change the legality bit and you get legal brothels, as you have on the outskirts of Las Vegas. I don't know about you, but I view sex as a very intimate activity and while some prostitutes may have become rather numb, I think that there is generally some emotional involvement on the part of the prostitute, as well as of the client. The role of a therapist and the role of a prostitute in this regard can be very similar indeed; people pay them in order to help them with a problem they have. In the case of prostitutes or hands on sex therapists, it will probably have more cases concerning sexuality and will deal with that aspect more, but I think that's about the only difference.
 
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