Star Wars vs Star Trek

Which universe would win?

  • Star Trek

    Votes: 227 35.5%

  • Star Wars

    Votes: 268 41.9%

  • Spaceballs

    Votes: 47 7.3%

  • Farscape

    Votes: 12 1.9%

  • Dune

    Votes: 50 7.8%

  • Stargate

    Votes: 36 5.6%
  • Total voters
    640
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Uchiha Madara said:
Again,an asteroid never destroyed a SD, it damaged it, and they were in that asteroid field for days. They kill the admirals, because they have better ones. It is not like they didn't try to make the HTL smaller. I said it would be EASIER to pack more firepower into a larger ship. They have starfighters to the chasing.
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they kill the admirals cause they rule by terror. the result? the same as the pre-WW2 soviet union. uterly incompetent military staff.
 
Uchiha Madara said:
It is the Sun Crusher come on. Ha! you are using comics that proves your point, and say everything else is non-canon, what a hypocrite.
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so if one comic proves the shields are there and another says they are not, who's the hypocrite? that is why it's better to stick with the movies. they were all directly controlled by Lucas. no funny business. :p
 
Uchiha Madara said:
How do you know? We never seen it fight in hyperspace, because the speed is too great, it is like two rockets fired one after the other, they can''t get in range. Star Wars use shields to stop it from time traveling. Anyways I have to go to sleep, bye.
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exactly that, they never fight from hyperspace. they don't even intercept in hyperspace.
 
Kittamaru said:
Because the station that made it was destroyed? Pretty difficult to build without the station and/or plans for it, and Han blew them sky high.

Star Wars is a fun Science Fantasy ride... but when confronted with the High Tech of Star Trek, it falls flat on it's face. Trek is a higher calibur, both Tech wise and Moral wise.
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trek higher caliber Moral wise ??? yeah right.
 
Kittamaru said:
What are you getting at? It's GONE... POOF. can't use it now... buh bye... just like the DS1 and 2... and the Executioner... and other super-weapons.
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sorry but if you claim stuff for trek that they can rebuild th same goes for SW.
there are a lot of things in startrek that are done by someone in a specifik situation yet you claim once they did it they can do it again. bu when it comes to SW it's like "oh sorry it's destroyed in the movie so you can't use it again."

Keep it real kitt. ones it's used it can be use again period. but that would be to hard on trek wouldn't it.
 
Kittamaru said:
Not if they're in a tractor beam... as shown in ANH... also, remember, UFP ships move at nearly .9 lightspeed at SUBLIGHT... far faster than anything we see in Star Wars.
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euh the speed that the isd are closing in on the millenium falcon looked on screen as fast as the enterprise so why are they then slower. i don't recall anyone in the movies saying howfast a ship can go in subspace. for all we know they can do ,9 aswell.
 
Lord Vasago said:
sorry but if you claim stuff for trek that they can rebuild th same goes for SW.
there are a lot of things in startrek that are done by someone in a specifik situation yet you claim once they did it they can do it again. bu when it comes to SW it's like "oh sorry it's destroyed in the movie so you can't use it again."

Keep it real kitt. ones it's used it can be use again period. but that would be to hard on trek wouldn't it.
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oh if we go there i already see the outcome of the conflict.....both galaxies get turned into a combo of lush vegetables, planetary debrees and dead stars :cool:
 
Lord Vasago said:
euh the speed that the isd are closing in on the millenium falcon looked on screen as fast as the enterprise so why are they then slower. i don't recall anyone in the movies saying howfast a ship can go in subspace. for all we know they can do ,9 aswell.
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maybe they can maybe they can't, the thing is they haven't. during the Bespin chase the relative movements of all ships clearly is nowhere near relative speeds, the same goes for the Tatooine chase. then again the departure angle view of NCC-1701 in TM shows such speeds, and that was impulse power.
 
antaran_1979 said:
oh if we go there i already see the outcome of the conflict.....both galaxies get turned into a combo of lush vegetables, planetary debrees and dead stars :cool:
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i mean't things like
* u can't use darth vader and yoda because they are dead yet data can be used though.

* u can't use a deathstar because they where destroyed. euh did anyone eveer mentioned that the emperor has the plans with him when ds2 is destroyed ??? i don't think so

when in gunfight a phasers leaves a spark and the foo dies. a blaster rifle leaves a spark and the ewok dies. so what's the differce????? Worf uses a bazooka type of weapon and you see some smoke when it hits the target. a AT-AT fires d you see a chunck of tree blown off so what's the difference????

see my point ? eveytime u see a blastershot it's clamed to be weak yet whenyou see phaser fight they are set at lowpower ??? yeah wright.

allso in this discution the empire can use his full force to fight because its universe vs universe. all vs all. so the empire would not need his forces to maintain order. they can use any one and any vessel in there universe
 
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antaran_1979 said:
1. the SG engagements are really small scaled. i find this strange since, reports say the conflicts there span in 3 galaxies?
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Yes, really small. But the humans get around.
The Taur'i are the only ones with the man power and the resources...all they needed was the technology

2. oh well that is another thing then. what determines the energy consumption then?
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This is where I fell that SG can be sort of arbitrary. THey use a ridiculous amount of energy for this that Trek could likely do for less. It reminds me of Star Wars. Maybe it's just that the scale is ridiculous.

3. vacuum energy is not the same thing as power. in other words if you want infinite power you'll get one hell of math issues, i don't even want to think about it. the source of energy might be undepleatable, however this does not meant it's power output is infinite. actually for the power to be infinite, you need to release an infinite quantity of energy in a limited amount of time. this might result in a creation of a new universe. but that put a side, ST uses the vacuum energy (zero point energy) to power it's quantum torpedoes. in other words, the human shields in SG are on pair with the quantum torps in ST. i'd say this makes them quite beatable.
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No you're right.
When the Atlantis was attacked by the beam fired through the stargate ship it wasn't that the beam was all powerful but that the beam would never end. The beam would power the shield making it indestructable and the beam was powerful enough to keep the worm hole open for longer than 38 minutes infact indefinitely and the beam would continue to fire on the citie's shield

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antaran_1979 said:
ion cannons are a very odd device. they damage only the electronic systems on SW vessels and cause no structural damage. this means they are very low powered AND SW shields can't stop them or if they can then the shields are very low powered too. in comparison the shields in ST can stop supernovas and event horizon effects. a low level ion burst will do little to disrupt any ST system.
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Well, I never saw any shields even resist a Ion Cannon is Star Wars, so I don't know.
 
antaran_1979 said:
1. sure they don't don't need to. there is no one to challenge them.
2. the bigger the ship the easier is to hit and the more difficult to compensate for its loss.
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Well, yeah because nobody is crazy enough to go against it unless the numbers are on their side. It is easier to hit and more difficult to replace, but it also make people more scared.
 
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