if you like wine..

laladopi said:
an alcohol is not good in excess, alcohol is good for you in general not specifically wine. I don't think wine of all things should be 6 dollars for 1.5 liters it must taste like shit, although if you've never had decent wine or do not care for a good flavored wine then you must be one happy camper with your cheap wine. :p
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I've had many types of wine and I've wine-tasted at several vineyards. I guess I have very eclectic taste buds and love the cheap stuff, too.

But no, all alcohol is NOT created equal. Wine in particular is good because of the antioxidants found in grapes. And red wine is said to be better than white wine because darker grapes have more flavonoids than white grapes. Studies show that wine (specifically) raises HDL levels and prevents blood clots.
 
Whites: Riesling and Gewurztraminer (spatlese -or "late picks" are good)

Reds: Pinot Noir

It is, actually, red wine that is beneficial, not just alcohol in general. But you needn't drink wine to get the effect. You can also drink a good, pure grape juice. The compounds that red wines have (which is absent in white wine, beer, vodka, etc.) are polyphenols. The specific polyphenol compounds are catechin and resveratrol, which are found in the skins of grapes and are used by the plant to fight off invading fungi.

The reason you don't get them in white wines is because the skins are removed from the grapes before their crushed. They're left on in red wines during crushing and when the grapes ferment, the alcohol infuses the polyphenols into the final product.
 
SkinWalker said:
Whites: Riesling and Gewurztraminer (spatlese -or "late picks" are good)

Reds: Pinot Noir

It is, actually, red wine that is beneficial, not just alcohol in general. But you needn't drink wine to get the effect. You can also drink a good, pure grape juice. The compounds that red wines have (which is absent in white wine, beer, vodka, etc.) are polyphenols. The specific polyphenol compounds are catechin and resveratrol, which are found in the skins of grapes and are used by the plant to fight off invading fungi.

The reason you don't get them in white wines is because the skins are removed from the grapes before their crushed. They're left on in red wines during crushing and when the grapes ferment, the alcohol infuses the polyphenols into the final product.
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I thought the most abundant flavonoids in red wine are resveratrol and QUERCITIN? Maybe catechin is another and I hope it is. Catechin is one of the flavonoids in green tea that make it so good for you. Mmmm, green tea!

True, grape juice is delicious and nutritious. But a glass of wine a day is good for the body AND the mind!
 
SkinWalker said:
Whites: Riesling and Gewurztraminer
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Yeah, my favorites wines are the fruity German whites, especially Mosel. If I have to drink red I'll take Zinfandel, which I assumed was also German (duh?), but the only labels I ever find are from home, California. Turns out it originally came from Croatia. I never cared for White Zinfandel, I'm glad that craze is over.
 
cosmictraveler said:
Pinon Vouvray Brut Non Dosé
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The wines of François Pinon are considered among the finest of Vouvray. François, a former child psychologist, took over the estate from his father in 1987, and has steadily made a name for the estate over the past 10 years. He is a young, serious winemaker whose main focus is "to keep the typicity of both the appellation and the vintage" in all his wines. The vineyards are in the corniche of the Vallée de Cousse in Vernou, the premiers côtes of Vouvray. The soil is clay and silica on a base of limestone (tuffeau) with flint (silex) and the area is rated among the top sites in the appellation for Vouvray of distinction and long life. Pinon follows a discipline of plowing the vineyards, not using chemical fertilizers and pesticides and, of course, he harvests by hand and uses no cultured yeasts. All new plantings are done by selection and no nursery clones are used; the vines are an average of 25 years old. He is certified organic.



Price: $21.99
 
Been dry for years now and yes that includes wine, beer or any other thingie. But Sangria is like a juice, never was a wine or beer person, did hard liquor mostly.

From health perspective, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resveratrol capsules are available and are perfectly healthy; You don't drink alcohol for health, off course same benefits can be achieved by non alcoholic things available but hey.

Rick
 
LadyMidnight said:
I've had many types of wine and I've wine-tasted at several vineyards. I guess I have very eclectic taste buds and love the cheap stuff, too.

But no, all alcohol is NOT created equal. Wine in particular is good because of the antioxidants found in grapes. And red wine is said to be better than white wine because darker grapes have more flavonoids than white grapes. Studies show that wine (specifically) raises HDL levels and prevents blood clots.
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You benefit from all alcohol, not just specifically wine! although wine does have more benefits than other types. look it up.
 
laladopi said:
no it's more disgusting than wine coolers!!
damn, that shit does fuck you up fast and quick though.
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and cheaply as well.
I mixed it with orange pop. My lame ass version of sangria
and it was better (LOTS better) than Thunderbird
 
in college I took ever clear shots two in a row (don't ask what happened next :D), does that count?


Rick
 
Rick said:
in college I took ever clear shots two in a row (don't ask what happened next :D), does that count?


Rick
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That's nasty grainy oh so nasty vodka!
I'd choose to be sober before I ever drank that stuff again!
 
Is wine only made from grapes? That's it? Or can other fruits be turned into wine and still truly be called a wine?
 
laladopi said:
You benefit from all alcohol, not just specifically wine! although wine does have more benefits than other types. look it up.
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What? No, I very much doubt that’s correct. By “alcohol” I assume you’re talking about ethanol. It is well-established that methanol has ocular toxicity and will send you blind if you drink it, so I guess you are not talking about that particular alcohol.

Ethanol is not good for you regardless of the quantity or the type of drink in which it is consumed. Ethanol is a toxic solvent that has to be detoxified by the liver. That’s not to say that humans cannot tolerate certain amounts – we can. But no amount of ethanol is actually good for the body per se.

A standard drink of red wine is hypothesised to be good for you due to various grape-derived compounds in the drink, not because of the ethanol. AFAIK there is no other alcoholic drink that is hypothesised to be good for you in the same way red wine is.

(I’m a big fan of Durif and Bordeaux red wines. )
 
Hercules Rockefeller said:
What? No, I very much doubt that’s correct. By “alcohol” I assume you’re talking about ethanol. It is well-established that methanol has ocular toxicity and will send you blind if you drink it, so I guess you are not talking about that particular alcohol.

Ethanol is not good for you regardless of the quantity or the type of drink in which it is consumed. Ethanol is a toxic solvent that has to be detoxified by the liver. That’s not to say that humans cannot tolerate certain amounts – we can. But no amount of ethanol is actually good for the body per se.

A standard drink of red wine is hypothesised to be good for you due to various grape-derived compounds in the drink, not because of the ethanol. AFAIK there is no other alcoholic drink that is hypothesised to be good for you in the same way red wine is.

(I’m a big fan of Durif and Bordeaux red wines. )
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Ok, so alchoholic beverages are good if you are going to drink a cup to two cups a day. Past down in my family from the Mediterraneans.
 
Hercules Rockefeller said:
What? No, I very much doubt that’s correct. By “alcohol” I assume you’re talking about ethanol. It is well-established that methanol has ocular toxicity and will send you blind if you drink it, so I guess you are not talking about that particular alcohol.
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Methanol causes ocular problems? Wow, did not know that. If I remember correctly, methanol was used in certain whiskey drinks back in the day. Maybe it's only toxic in excessive amounts? Then again, any type of alcohol (including the beloved ethanol) is toxic in excess.

A standard drink of red wine is hypothesised to be good for you due to various grape-derived compounds in the drink, not because of the ethanol. AFAIK there is no other alcoholic drink that is hypothesised to be good for you in the same way red wine is.
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Beer has folate and may reduce cardiovascular diseases! A recent study also shows that ONE beer a day may promote mental health, particularly in women. Hey, I concur... I drink a beer (or glass of wine) with dinner each night and I'm almost always happy! But yeah, from what we "know" about alcoholic beverages, red wine still takes the cake for being the healthiest.
 
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