Car accidents are i guess one of the biggest problems of the world..In order to arouse or maybe create social awareness i am willing to make a project about it..car companies are doing researches everyday about how to make the cars safer. but i believe if you can not change people the cars even if they are perfect won't change a thing. So, can anyone help me about it? how can we make a project that would make a difference in our lives?
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Reducing Car Accidents...A social responsibility project..
- Thread starter mrcg
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http://www.tacsafety.com.au/jsp/statistics/overview.do;jsessionid=GGHOBFGPJBIJ?areaID=12
http://www.tacsafety.com.au/jsp/homepage/home.jsp
http://www.monash.edu.au/muarc/
http://www.aami.com.au/company-information/news-centre/press-releases.aspx
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=...d=1&q=Research+crash+site:racv.com.au&spell=1
that should get you started anyway. The monash link is really good, as is the TAC one
http://www.tacsafety.com.au/jsp/homepage/home.jsp
http://www.monash.edu.au/muarc/
http://www.aami.com.au/company-information/news-centre/press-releases.aspx
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=...d=1&q=Research+crash+site:racv.com.au&spell=1
that should get you started anyway. The monash link is really good, as is the TAC one
Speed is the single most important reason that auto accidents cause human deaths. So, it's simple, reduce the speed of all automobiles to, say, 25 mph and you'll save a gazillion lives every year.
Oh, I know, you'll have all kinds of excuses not to change anything about the speed. You'll probably give all kinds of reasons why it can't be done. And yet, while you're complaining, and seeking some perfect answer, millions of lives are being lost. Are the excuses worht all those lives?
But I have another question ....why should you care? If someone is killed in a car accident, and you don't even know them, why should you care? And, yes, I am being serious! If someone is killed 1,000 miles away, why do you care?
Personally, I think people tend to let things bother us too much ...and I'm not so sure that I don't blame the news media for blasting us constantly with sensationalist reports just to make money!
Why can't we seem to mind our own freakin' business? Why must we constantly try to control the lives of others in some misguided idealist ...nose-in-the-business-of-others?
Baron Max
Oh, I know, you'll have all kinds of excuses not to change anything about the speed. You'll probably give all kinds of reasons why it can't be done. And yet, while you're complaining, and seeking some perfect answer, millions of lives are being lost. Are the excuses worht all those lives?
But I have another question ....why should you care? If someone is killed in a car accident, and you don't even know them, why should you care? And, yes, I am being serious! If someone is killed 1,000 miles away, why do you care?
Personally, I think people tend to let things bother us too much ...and I'm not so sure that I don't blame the news media for blasting us constantly with sensationalist reports just to make money!
Why can't we seem to mind our own freakin' business? Why must we constantly try to control the lives of others in some misguided idealist ...nose-in-the-business-of-others?
Baron Max
mrcg
inspite of what baron says the area of activity which has shown the best $:benift ratio is actually enforcement.
If people KNOW that if they drink and drive they will be stopped, they wont get away with it and the penelty is an automatic loss of licence the numbers of drink drivers lessons.
The best way to actually do this is random breath testing. For instance in melbourne when i was working there i was comming home one night down the easten freeway and the entire freeway coming out of the city was blocked and every person going through was being breath tested. Then monday morning on my way to work i was going along a minor road into the city and again everyone was being breath tested (that one really worried me because they were also checking rego's and my father forgot to put the new sticker on the car)
When people know that no matter what time it is, no matter WHERE it is, they can be pulled over and breath tested because a cop just happens to be there and feels like pulling you over, the numbers of drink drivers drops significantly
the same goes for speeding, make sure its anywhere, any time and you wont know where and see if people are still willing to speed.
inspite of what baron says the area of activity which has shown the best $:benift ratio is actually enforcement.
If people KNOW that if they drink and drive they will be stopped, they wont get away with it and the penelty is an automatic loss of licence the numbers of drink drivers lessons.
The best way to actually do this is random breath testing. For instance in melbourne when i was working there i was comming home one night down the easten freeway and the entire freeway coming out of the city was blocked and every person going through was being breath tested. Then monday morning on my way to work i was going along a minor road into the city and again everyone was being breath tested (that one really worried me because they were also checking rego's and my father forgot to put the new sticker on the car)
When people know that no matter what time it is, no matter WHERE it is, they can be pulled over and breath tested because a cop just happens to be there and feels like pulling you over, the numbers of drink drivers drops significantly
the same goes for speeding, make sure its anywhere, any time and you wont know where and see if people are still willing to speed.
inspite of what baron says the area of activity which has shown the best $:benift ratio is actually enforcement.
Actually you're not far from wrong, but .....where are you going to get all the cops? And how are you going to pay for them?
Right now, on the streets and highways around Dallas, there are a gazillion speeders and reckless drivers, but one cop on patrol. And interestingly, when the speeders see a cop pulling someone over for speeding, they now know where the cop is, so they punch the gas!
Nope, just plain speed control ...with speed at about 25-30 mph, the speeders simply can't get around and through all those who are obeying the law. See? The decent, law-abiding drivers will keep those others in line simply because they can't get around them all. And the deadly accidents will be cut down to almost nothing.
Baron Max
in the case of speeders there are two ways to avoid that
the first is the use of flash free speed camera's, ie you dont even know you have been pinged till months latter when you get a fine in the mail with a photo of you speeding. The problem with this is that it has no imidiate effect on speeding, it only works in the long term
The second is that ALL police (even the detective out going for lunch) are required by police policy to pull over, breath test and enforce the road laws at any time of the day.
In the case of random breath testing stations they usually have both high speed WRX's at the site, and unmarked police cars driving around the area as well to catch people delibratly trying to avoid the breath testing stations (in that case they get a double ticket, driving under the influance and a ticket for trying to avioid the breath test)
im not sure how many police each state has but its not a small number and the trafic enforcement squad work ANYWHERE, both city and country randomly so no matter what you cant feel safe
Lastly there is a problem with speed limiting cars, firstly not all the states have the same max speed limit, even if you speed limit to 110km\h (the max speed for most states), 110 will DEFINITLY kill in a school zone (currently 25 SA, 40 vic) or a residental area (50)
No one is going to accept having there car limited to 25 when they have to drive intersate (think 25*1000km which is just the aprox distance from adelaide to melbourne, imagin brisband to perth)
The last problem with this idea is there are situations where the ability to accelerate actually PROTECTS from an acident, think an out of control truck about to hit you or a train (though this one is mostly there own fault) or if your overtaking a semi and another one comes around a corner straight at you
the first is the use of flash free speed camera's, ie you dont even know you have been pinged till months latter when you get a fine in the mail with a photo of you speeding. The problem with this is that it has no imidiate effect on speeding, it only works in the long term
The second is that ALL police (even the detective out going for lunch) are required by police policy to pull over, breath test and enforce the road laws at any time of the day.
In the case of random breath testing stations they usually have both high speed WRX's at the site, and unmarked police cars driving around the area as well to catch people delibratly trying to avoid the breath testing stations (in that case they get a double ticket, driving under the influance and a ticket for trying to avioid the breath test)
im not sure how many police each state has but its not a small number and the trafic enforcement squad work ANYWHERE, both city and country randomly so no matter what you cant feel safe
Lastly there is a problem with speed limiting cars, firstly not all the states have the same max speed limit, even if you speed limit to 110km\h (the max speed for most states), 110 will DEFINITLY kill in a school zone (currently 25 SA, 40 vic) or a residental area (50)
No one is going to accept having there car limited to 25 when they have to drive intersate (think 25*1000km which is just the aprox distance from adelaide to melbourne, imagin brisband to perth)
The last problem with this idea is there are situations where the ability to accelerate actually PROTECTS from an acident, think an out of control truck about to hit you or a train (though this one is mostly there own fault) or if your overtaking a semi and another one comes around a corner straight at you
Fraggle Rocker
Staff member
Indeed. Last time I looked it up, road accidents were the number five cause of death in the whole world. Even in places like Burma where people are starving to death, and places like the Mideast where people are killing each other in the name of their favorite imaginary supernatural being, and in places like Africa where they're doing both, road accidents are one of the leading causes of death. It's actually worse in Africa because the condition of both roads and vehicles is terrible.Car accidents are i guess one of the biggest problems of the world.
I think it's a tribute to our mastery of nature that we've conquered so many of the "natural" killers like plague, influenza, polio, diarrhea and infant mortality, that so many people live to be killed by our own technology. We have a life expectancy in the 80s, which is more than twice what it was 150 years ago, and more than three times what it was in the Roman Empire.
Ya gotta die of something. I'd much rather get smashed by a truck than endure years of painful chemotherapy and die of cancer anyway.
No it's not. In the USA drunken driving is implicated in half of all fatal road accidents: 20,000 deaths per year. As for the other half, stupidity plays a large role. Walk through any parking lot and count the cars with bald tires. Extrapolate that to the defects you can't see, like worn brakes and misalignment. Then look at all the people who simply can't drive and shouldn't have passed the damn test! It's way too easy to get a driver's license in the USA, although to be fair I know it's much more difficult in most other civilized countries.Speed is the single most important reason that auto accidents cause human deaths.
Get the drunks, the junk, and the incompetents off the road and we could all probably drive as fast as we wanted.
.... We have a life expectancy in the 80s, ....
Not if we die earlier in a car accident!!
In the USA drunken driving is implicated in half of all fatal road accidents: 20,000 deaths per year.
Perhaps. But the implication is that speed played no part in those accidents. And my best guess is that speed was at least a major contributing factor even in accidents where alcohol was a factor.
A drunk driver driving at 25mph is not likely to cause a fatal accident.
Get the drunks, the junk, and the incompetents off the road and we could all probably drive as fast as we wanted.
Most people seem to drive as fast as they want now!
Baron Max
Fraggle Rocker
Staff member
Max, you know bloody well what the phrase "life expectancy" means. It's a statistical term. I would say we enjoyed a respite from disingenousness during your absence, but unfortunately there's no shortage of it. Nonetheless, would you please refrain from pretending you're jez a iggerant aw-shucks Redneck? We all know better.Not if we die earlier in a car accident!!
A "lock-system" of some kind, which make it impossible to drive under certain cirkumstances would help. Such a thing could allso (and should, I think) be installed in other dangerous(or expensive) items - especially things like weapons.
The cirkumstances could be:1:Unautorised acces(no thieves-thanks. many car accidents by thieves driving from police).2:No alcohol or prohibited drugs of any kind. The car shut down, may even alert owner or "guardian person".3:Sanity test. The lock could activate if you behave oddly or are ourt of your mind(perhaps the owner or others should be able to adjust it to individual temper.)4:If there is some uncertainty of drivers abilities (he/she is caught too many times driving hazardly), you may only be allowed to drive under some conditions - especially it may require permission by another person who are enabled to lock your car if there is suspicion of anything wrong. A limit to personal freedom? in a sense:yes. but freedom is conditional you do not harm others, and bweside that roads are not private property of drivers.
The cirkumstances could be:1:Unautorised acces(no thieves-thanks. many car accidents by thieves driving from police).2:No alcohol or prohibited drugs of any kind. The car shut down, may even alert owner or "guardian person".3:Sanity test. The lock could activate if you behave oddly or are ourt of your mind(perhaps the owner or others should be able to adjust it to individual temper.)4:If there is some uncertainty of drivers abilities (he/she is caught too many times driving hazardly), you may only be allowed to drive under some conditions - especially it may require permission by another person who are enabled to lock your car if there is suspicion of anything wrong. A limit to personal freedom? in a sense:yes. but freedom is conditional you do not harm others, and bweside that roads are not private property of drivers.