1stMay2007 The Day on which Moderation Died

How are the questions redundant if you've never answered them?

I think the differences you feign concern about have practically been addressed. And I think it's ridiculous to expect people to speak to every single scenario you come up with in your free time to try to "justify" a position you are demonstrably incapable of making any argument in favor of. Trying to find or compile a list of exceptions proves nothing. There are exceptions to every moral, every law.
 
countezero said:
How are the questions redundant if you've never answered them?

I think the differences you feign concern about have practically been addressed. And I think it's ridiculous to expect people to speak to every single scenario you come up with in your free time to try to "justify" a position you are demonstrably incapable of making any argument in favor of. Trying to find or compile a list of exceptions proves nothing. There are exceptions to every moral, every law.
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The difference is merely in the medium. If authors don't care about used books why do they care about e-books? You see the alternative is to make them cheap enough to be accessible to all, which with the highly diverse market available is really the best option. If they are unwilling to charge a rate that is commensurate with their efforts, they cry piracy. Everyone has to buy the original music, book etc, before they are able to share. So why is the internet a special case?

So do you think the internet should not be a freely accessible resource, then? Do you support having different nodes of access, so that limited information can be accessed for free? Considering all the people who put stuff online and don't get paid for it? There is a movement currently underway for that; do you support that movement?
 
The difference for YOU is the medium. The medium makes no difference, morally and legally speaking. It's not about access or how people share, a word that is often an Orwellian synonym for stealing. It's about people having their products — the fruits of their labor — put online and given away without any compensation.

Again:

1. Do you think stealing is OK?

2. Do you think ignoring copyright laws or illegally sharing copyrighted material is OK?

3. Do you believe in the integrity of intellectual property?
 
countezero said:
The difference for YOU is the medium. The medium makes no difference, morally and legally speaking. It's not about access or how people share, a word that is often an Orwellian synonym for stealing. It's about people having their products — the fruits of their labor — put online and given away without any compensation.

Again:

1. Do you think stealing is OK?

2. Do you think ignoring copyright laws or illegally sharing copyrighted material is OK?

3. Do you believe in the integrity of intellectual property?
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I don't know.

Do you think it is illegal to loan books? What about loaning CDs?

Do you think buying used books, CDs, DVDs is illegal? (all this is what is generally done without compensation)
 
Those scenarios have all been addressed in this thread. You have failed to acknowledge that and chosen to continue your same tactic, a decision that makes it fairly obvious you have nothing of interest to add to this debate.
 
countezero said:
Those scenarios have all been addressed in this thread. You have failed to acknowledge that and chosen to continue your same tactic, a decision that makes it fairly obvious you have nothing of interest to add to this debate.
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Sam seldom has anything to add to a debate. She/he's an antagonizer and a rabble rouser. Plus he/she supports terrorists, so naturally he/she would support criminal activity.

Baron Max
 
It doesnt matter what u say or ask, what matters is whats out there today.

Now let me giveya an advice, if u want to write, use the creative commons, your reputation is way to your money, if u cant get it then u r doomed before u start.
 
"It doesnt matter what u say or ask, what matters is whats out there today."

If one subscribes to this logic, then one should ignore all illegality — rape, murder, prostitution, etc. — as it is already "out there" in some form. Singular, with each post you make yourself look more foolish...
 
countezero said:
Those scenarios have all been addressed in this thread. You have failed to acknowledge that and chosen to continue your same tactic, a decision that makes it fairly obvious you have nothing of interest to add to this debate.
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I fail to see how those scenarios have been addressed; all you claim is that the acceptability of these media somehow make them exempt while the internet is still considered hallowed ground.

Also, if one considers the internet to be sacrosanct what prevents further restriction of access? Why have free access to the www? Why not limit it further through subscriptions?

This kind of thinking is what deters progress.
 
The differences between mass "sharing" on the internet and used books and CDs and lending was addressed. Go back a few pages and see. You didn't understand it, remember?

I'm finished with this thread until you and your echo have the guts to answer the three simple questions I've asked, WITHOUT asking questions in return and hurling more chum into the debate's proverbial waters...
 
countezero said:
"It doesnt matter what u say or ask, what matters is whats out there today."

If one subscribes to this logic, then one should ignore all illegality — rape, murder, prostitution, etc. — as it is already "out there" in some form. Singular, with each post you make yourself look more foolish...
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Unlike u i am not here to look like anything; RAPE MURDER PROSTITUTION AND COPYRIGHTS are cancers of society.
 
samcdkey said:
Then we are at an impasse.
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Well, if we can't agree or make any compromise, then the only thing left to do is to strap dynamite to my body, walk into a schoolhouse here in town and blow up a bunch of unsuspecting kids and teachers.

Baron Max
 
Baron Max said:
Well, if we can't agree or make any compromise, then the only thing left to do is to strap dynamite to my body, walk into a schoolhouse here in town and blow up a bunch of unsuspecting kids and teachers.

Baron Max
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Well, if you're offering...:D
 
LOL

Well basically i'm not playing ball anymore and so are a lot of people. I here by refuse to buy anymore media anymore. I will just buy old stuff, i've got a lot of catching up to do anyway. New entertainment is crap and I will create my own video/pictures on win xp.
 
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