Zimmerman: A New Chapter

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Tiassa, Nov 18, 2013.

  1. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    OJ was most certainly NOT prosecuted because the public hated him.
    No. OJ's guilt or innocence was a very open question at the time, definitely worthy of prosecution - that's what a trial is for. Zimmerman's innocence - or if you prefer, the impossibility of prosecuting him successfully - was also well established.
     
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  3. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    Wegs. "haha" !?!? "...sorry!" !?!?

    The "guy" was found "Not Guilty"(...acquitted...) in a Trial by Judge and Jury.

    Who or what has determined/deemed that in the first Trial by Judge and Jury that the "guy" was in any way "wrongfully/wrongly" acquitted?
     
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  5. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    We had several long threads where people forwarded their fantasy scenarios about how he might be guilty. I don't think there is a need to rehash them.
     
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  7. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Our justice system dropped the ball with this one, in other words.
     
  8. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    Russ_Watters, "...fantasy scenarios about how he might be guilty." M'kay.

    "I don't think..." M'kay.
     
  9. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    Wegs, "Our justice system dropped the ball with this one,..." M'kay.
     
  10. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Not according to him. (And, after all, by your definitions, he was just as innocent of murder as Zimmerman was.)

    He shot and killed an unarmed teenager after pursuing him through a development, and after he was told by a police dispatcher not to. That alone is sufficient to trigger a trial, even without his prior history of violence.
     
  11. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    I have no idea what OJ thinks about why he was prosecuted, nor do I care - it is as irrelevant to me as Zimmerman's opinion surely is to you (and is to me). The fact of the matter is that in OJ's case the only major public outcry (demonstrations) were against prosecuting him, not for it. OJ was arrested days after the murder, with no time for public opinion to weigh-in one way or another about prosecuting him.
    Since I explicitly stated I disagree with that, you must be utilizing a definition that is no mine or utilizing mine incorrectly.
    I would tend to agree if "that alone" was the entirety of the evidence available to the police that night and the prosecutors in the following weeks, but as we both know, it was not.

    billvon, I graciously and immediately acknowledge my errors earlier. I'd appreciate similar consideration. Instead, it just seems like you are making stuff up as you go along, flinging crap at the wall to see if it sticks.
     
  12. kwhilborn Banned Banned

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    Who cares about Zimmerman? The poor guy is already hunted by racist organizations (Black Panthers are racist).

    I don't blame his wife for leaving him. If I was him I would tell my wife to leave with kids for their own safety.

    Zimmerman was fortunate enough to survive the attack of Trayvon Martin (According to Jury/law), and yet the poor guy cannot catch a break with the dumb racist negro community bent on his destruction (If the shoe fits).

    I would point a gun at my wifes head if it meant she would take my family safely away from the dumb racist Negros wanting death as a punishment for my self defense.

    He was deemed innocent by officers at the scene. With nationwide racist pressure the police were forced to arrest Zimmerman. He was again deemed innocent by a jury selected by Crown attorneys and Defense. He is officially innocent.

    So basically the only people out to get Zimmerman (including bozos in this thread) are stupid vigilante racists.

    However you can make it right.

    Donate here to help Zimmerman now,
    http://www.gzdefensefund.com/donate/

    Help him survive the legal mess brought upon him by ignorant racist vigilantes who are too stupid to recognize justice when they see it.
     
  13. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    LOL, been spending too much time in the medicine cabinet?

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    OJ is in jail and is no longer a threat to law abiding citizens...Zimmerman on the other hand? Zimmerman is a continuing threat to law abiding citizens and empowered by a poorly written law. This may come as a surprise to you but black folk are law abiding citizens too. Women are law abiding citizens as well. Zimmerman has killed before. How long will it be before he kills again?
     
  14. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    Russ_Watters, may I humbly ask, exactly what is your perceived definition of the word : "rehash" ?

    Mind you, I did not fail to notice that in your Post #43 - quoted below - you started your second sentence by proclaiming that you "...don't think...".

     
  15. kwhilborn Banned Banned

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    @ Joepistole,

    What drugs are you on? OJ? What does Orange Juice have to do with Zimmerman.

    Anybody with eyes/ears/pulse can clearly see Zimmerman is an innocent guy who was lucky enough to survive being attacked by a violent teenager.

    The courts say he is innocent.

    The Police said he was innocent long before that.

    Yes. Continue being a racist vigilante hater. It suits some f you.

    However anybody who respects the law should donate to the poor bloke.
    http://www.gzdefensefund.com/donate/


    How about people listen to the courts and the law instead of making up their own crap about what occurred.

    Anybody can sling crap, look at this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp8uf9HyrLc

    The bloody racist cries are sickening because it is bogus. The world is a melting pot in our day and age.

    You see what you want to see.

    Slavery, Slavery, Slavery!


    LISTEN UP. Slavery was never endorsed by white people. It was endorsed by a select few who ran large plantations and such, but to an average white man a slave meant unemployment for him and starvation for his own family. Canada (my country) NEVER accepted slavery or racism and my ancestors (Quakers) were instrumental in fighting for their rights.

    Black Americans seem to still yell Slavery at every opportune moment and yet THE ENTIRE CIVIL WAR WAS IN DIRECT OPPOSITION TO SLAVERY. This means the majority of )White) Americans risked their limbs and lives to free the slaves of the south.

    There was NO OTHER REASON FOR THE CIVIL WAR.

    Racial equality is a LEGAL RIGHT. Intermixing marriages are recognized to the point of accepting same sex marriages. Every TV show has mixed couples or even weight of cast members.

    I am sure real racism exists among those very ignorant, but the instances being brought to our attentions by the dumb racist vigilantes are 95% hogwash.

    Do you want to know the real reason Trayvon Martin is dead. It is because he was talking on a hands free cellphone. If you have ever seen anybody talk on a hands free cellphone (REGARDLESS OF RACE) then you know they look insane talking to themselves, and Trayvon was a kid hanging out in the rain under neighborhood watch. Zimmerman called in over 50 complaints while doing neighborhood watch, and sometimes they were on white folks. He did not just target Blacks as you have been led to believe. Once he called in because a kid looked too young to be out on his own and likely followed a tiny kid around the complex (fortunately not everyone attacks the neighborhood watch like Trayvon did).

    Trayvon got what he deserved, and Zimmerman probably saved the life of someone else by doing us this favor.

    [video=youtube;tauc4CeM_IE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tauc4CeM_IE[/video]

    Ignore the stupid Piers Morgan parts though.
     
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  16. Bells Staff Member

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    How utterly unsurprising that you support wife beaters.

    And racist Negros? Ah the irony. That's it kwhilborn. Show those true colours. Keep digging that hole.
     
  17. kwhilborn Banned Banned

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    @ Bells,

    Zimmerman was getting over 400 death threats a minute from racist vigilantes like you (obviously you do not accept American Justice in this case).

    If I was getting 400+ death threats a minute I might beat my wife to make her leave me and I am a pacifist. This mans best bet to keep his loved ones safe is to keep away from them. It is a shame that racist vigilantes exist (like you) but obviously even sciforums has its share.

    Racist Negro, Racist Spanish, Racist Whites, Racist Indians... If they are racist then they are either evil or ignorant.

    @ Bells,
    I do not beat women. I question your "unsurprisedness" that you think I support them.

    I don't see Zimmerman as a wife beater. I see a man who is forcing his family away for their safety.

    Support Zimmerman DONATE HERE..
    http://www.gzdefensefund.com/donate/

    He helped make our world a safer place. Three Cheers for Zimmerman...

    Hip
    Hip
    Hooray!

    Maybe the next drug fueled lunatic will think twice before trying to beat up on neighborhood watch.

    I thought we established all the facts in the older thread on this. Re-hatching a case decided by police/courts/jury of peers to be about a guys innocence is a bit juvenile.

    His whole life has been altered by a race out to get him. If Trayvon was unsuccessful when he tried to kill him, he may still gain victory from idiot racists like Bells supporting wrong facts and history (according to American Justice System).

    So if Zimmerman was not a racist before I think it's likely he is becoming one. Racism is being kept alive by religious zealots and those on the racism money trains.

    Who makes money off this?

    Racist Vigilantes are just too stupid to look at the truth and understand. I can see some people falling into stupidity traps, but people here claim to be at least somewhat educated for the most part. If this is true then why do we hear such moronic comments from racist vigilantes. Facts speak for themselves.

    If Mark Zuckerberg (facebook founder that likes hoodies) was walking in the townhouses talking on a phone in the rain he would have gotten the same attention that Trayvon did from Zimmerman. The difference is that Zuckerberg would not be dumb enough to attack the neighborhood watch guy. Trayvon was too dumb to realize picking a fight with someone carrying a gun was stupid.

    @ Bells further,

    Now go cry a river some place else. Your Trayvon was a twisted kid trying to commit murder on a neighborhood watch according to the courts/police/jury/JUSTICE SYSTEM.

    Losers go to back of the line and quit whining. Enough is enough. The Wannabe Gangsta Wannabe'd himself into a hoodlums early grave. The earth is a better place.
     
  18. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    The Florida justice system? What a joke. He's obviously prone to violent outbursts.
     
  20. pjdude1219 screw watergate i want to know about zaragate Valued Senior Member

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    the black panthers may be rascist but they came about of cops refusing to help black victims like the sanford police department.

    She left because he pulled a gun her. not because people are upset he got away with murder.

    Martin didn't attack zimmerman. zero evidence of that. says alot about you that you defend the assailent rather than the victims

    self defense is defending your self not stalking people and confronting him.



    that would imply they investigatewd they didn't. they went dead black kid no big. they have a history of ignoring black victims
    its not rascist to want a death investigated and a thug arrested.
    no he was found not guilty. and america doesn't have a crown.



    or people that rightfully recognize him as a violent thug.

    wow your defending a nut job who likes pulling guns on people. that you think he is good guy says bad things about you. not those who recognize him as the menace he is.
     
  21. pjdude1219 screw watergate i want to know about zaragate Valued Senior Member

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    to quote his wife he feels invincible since his aquital that he can get away with anything. I have my doudts now to his innocence.
    She is afraid of him and your making him out as a fucking saint. I mean really what is your defect. i can concede your point for the trial intially but your fucking sitting here excusing a pattern of violent incidents with him pulliung guns on people with next to no provocation. an honest person would go i fucked up i was wrong not double the fuck down on defending him. he is a violant thug



    he made are world safer? lets see martin convictions never hurt anyone until a strange man killed him after starting a fight with him.

    zimmerman a long history of violance and arrests leading up to him killing a kid which could have been avioded had he shown even a modicm of restraint and pascifism. after killing said innocent kid went on to being even more reckless with firearms and is continuing to to show his violant nature.


    also y7es you are a supporter of wife beaters you support zimmerman who beat and threatened his wife so yeah you do support wife beaters.

    and also lying about the dead to support there killers is a dick move
     
  22. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    Agreed, but that's not the same as your previous claim. They are not synonymous.
     
  23. Bells Staff Member

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    Zimmerman had a restraining order placed against him by his fiance, then he got married to another woman, who then left him and he pulled a gun on her and her father. He goes out with another woman and low and behold, he pulls a gun on her as well and then manhandles her out of her own home after threatening her with the gun by pointing it at her face and refuses to let her back into her own home. He then calls the police and lies about her and tries to claim she is pregnant and crazy. While he's the one who broke her furniture, pointed a shotgun at her face and then shoved her out the door while she's on the phone to the police.

    There is a history of domestic violence. All on record. From before Trayvon Martin ever came on the scene. But hey, lets not look at Zimmerman's past. Because apparently wife beating is acceptable if "angry Negroes" are after you. He forgets of course that the woman's neighbours didn't even know Zimmerman even lived in her house. No one knew he was there.

    So of course he will make things up about Martin to try and paint the wife beater as innocent. It's what wife beaters and those who support it do. They lie and blame the people they know cannot defend themselves. Power. Stop them from talking back. Hence why his support for the wife beater is not unusual.
     

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