Youtube- Prime Witness?

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  1. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    An investigation is under way after a video of a man being repeatedly beaten by Los Angeles police officers was posted on the internet site YouTube.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6136046.stm



    Will Youtube change how society perceives itself and others?

    What do you think?
     
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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks I couldn't find it.

    What with camera phones being so common the probability of being "Caught On Tape" so high and the high "entertainment" value of ad hoc journalism, what is the possible effect on society?

    Ennui or greater responsibility?
     
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  7. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Guilty until proven innocent in a court of law!

    That's exactly what such "news films" have created. They show only parts of the real action, then everyone takes it at face value ....and usually convicts the participants without benefit of trial or even allowing presentation of other evidence.

    According to other news I've read, the man refused to surrender to police when asked nicely, then resisted arrest by fighting with the police. The film-maker only shows the last part of the film .....for sensationalistic outrage.

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  8. sderenzi Banned Banned

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    Ehh, I think if they wanted the guy so bad why didn't they just wait around and try talking him down. Instead they do what mindless drones will, attack, hurt, and nearly kill a man that's not even engaged them in a physical confrontation. I'm sorry but if you don't hit me I am certainly not going to hit you, or try using force to restrain you. There's no logic here :-Z
     
  9. francois Schwat? Registered Senior Member

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    Will it? Hell yes it will. It's already begun. And think about how new it still is! Think about how many potential uses it may have that people have not yet thought of. It's just crazy... the magnitude of people that watch these videos and also contribute videos. That number is only going to grow. It's not wonder Google purchased Youtube. Very wise decision they made.
     
  10. MetaKron Registered Senior Member

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    These people think you're attacking them if you hold your hands in front of your face to try to deflect them from hitting you.
     
  11. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, just let the cops stand around and wait on the guy to make up his mind to surrender. What the hell, cops ain't got nothing better to do, right? I mean, there's hardly any crime anywhere in the nation, so they have tons of time to sit around and on a criminal to give up peacefully.

    Hell, for that matter, if the guy didn't want to surrender to the cops, why didn't they just let him go his merry way?! If criminals don't want to give up, then ...what the hell, let 'em go.

    Baron Max
     
  12. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    in a normal job if someone such as these police officers was shown to be guilty of such a thing they would be fired. not so with police officers, they are reassigned to other departments. the media doesn't report that part and i wonder why.

    about the video itself, it is taken out of context. nuff said.

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    if the man couldn't breath how can he say "i can't breath" over and over?
     
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  13. John99 Banned Banned

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    CDKey: why do you stick up for criminals?

    Anyway, he probably got beaten worse when he was "jumped in" to his gang. Very convenient to have a camera rolling for the law suit.

    edit: doesnt look that bad to me.

    No.
     
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  14. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Why are you so quick to jump to conclusions?

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    I just saw the news that the release of this video on youtube had resulted in the investigation of the two officers.

    Mass media is a very powerful tool for manipulation; if a video online can have such powers what are the possibilities of its use/misuse?

    Of course, most of the people here have got sidetracked by the video and ignored my question. Which, in a strange way, proves my point!

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  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    That caught my attention too. And he said it pretty clearly as well.
     
  16. John99 Banned Banned

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    Right, but when things are taken out of context they ceases to be usefull or accurate except for sensationalism and propoganda.

    If you check this guys record I am sure you will find him to be a career criminal whose victims are mainly the poor and minorities, this guy is\was a violent offender (from what i have read) and well known to the police.
     
  17. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    Don't be an idiot. Life isn't that simple.

    For once I sort of agree with Baron Max:
    It's impossible to say what's going on here without the context. Those punches look completely unprovoked, but that's just my roots showing.

    What does YouTube mean for society? I haven't the foggiest. Nothing, probably. If users try to use it to enhance democracy in some way - which I think is what you're asking - the opponents of democracy will sue it out of existence.
     
  18. John99 Banned Banned

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    CDKey:nevermind, maybe were on the same page here...for once... LOL
     
  19. John99 Banned Banned

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    yeah, now tell me about life, i've seen alot you know.
     
  20. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, me too. Your point is?
     
  21. John99 Banned Banned

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    Well you called me an idiot,

    Here is Sam's headline:

    It seemed as though CDKey did not know the circumstances, or what it is like to live in rough part of town.
     
  22. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    No, I said that you were being one, not that you are one. I chose my words carefully. I'm sure that your state of idiocy was temporary.

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    The police have an obligation to be professional. Minimum use of force and all that. Therefore, even in that short clip, it's obvious that they weren't playing by the rules. My guess is that they'll be convicted - and rightly so. Otherwise, how are we to distinguish them from the criminals?
     
  23. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    he is a career gang member wanted for theft.
     

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