Youths who are given no opportunities to accomplish anything by their own volition. Careful. Your true colours are showing again, Mr. "I'm an independent". Obviously, quite a lot of people care. You cared enough to post, for a start. If you don't know what something means, the appropriate thing to do is to make an effort to learn, not to dismiss out of hand. Ok then. If you were in their position, what course of action would you recommend? They are French. Think about it. Have you checked into this? Please share your expertise and data with us, then. Cite your sources. Or could it be that you're just making things up? Careful. Your Islamophobia is showing. This kind of extreme individualism is just fine as long as it is applied equally to the entire populace. In a democratic system, we could then assume that everybody agrees that there should be no "nanny state", and that everybody is happy with a dog-eat-dog right-wing paradise. But in this case, as Sam's links show, your preferred policy does not seem to be applied equally across the board. While the middle class is pampered by the government, these young people at the low end of the socioeconomic (there's that word again, otheadp) scale seem to have been deliberately neglected. Put yourself in their shoes. What would you do? Get a job, I suppose. Ha.
Bull creape. It's France, not the African savannah -- where leaving the tree is a death sentence, or the Aussie outback -- where dingos might eat their baby. They don't get off their butts and get into the system and do what it takes to earn honest income. Even if that means leaving France for friendlier opportunities. Or what? Well, duh. Right of left, left of right. Not left. Not right. A bit of both. Not beholden to either. An individual -- an unaffiliated Independent -- who'll flip you off as emphatically as I'd flip off the Pope. Mr. G 0,0,0,><
Only because they fail to use the system, it starts with education, not sitting on the street corner shuckin and jiving, and then working your ass off to get some where, and to get some where you have to enter the system with the skills that the system needs.
it's an excuse word. a euphemism. a racist word. it's a word made up by lefties to help themselves get out of having to hold someone accountable for their action -- or to at least criticize them. of having to say "that shit is wrong. STOP it". a lefty would never criticize someone other than a white male conservative. that would be not inclusive or something. all part of that big ol' moral relativism mindset. no one is responsible for their actions. it's always circumstances caused by The Man who runs The System. that's where class struggle and dichotomies come in. socioeconomic. pfft
then why the fuck are there so many of them still in France??? it's the country with the largest population of Muslims in EU. if there's institutional racism, if they're unhappy, if they aren't surviving, why don't they leave to some next-door EU country? the borders are wide open, and there are other French-speaking countries there... history has shown that when people are persecuted in a country they get up and leave. so why on earth aren't they doing that? oh, i know i know!! because France is the most socialist country in the EU where people get insane amount of handouts. because contrary to "socioeconomically disadvantaged Australian mods who haven't had the privilege to get decent education and hence spew all kinds of nonsense", the "system" is perfectly fine. you apply for a job, and if qualified, you get it.
this has become patetic. they dont have any right to burn or shoot anyone. i think the word disgust is suitable here.
In a democratic society, one is free to make what they can for themselves if they choose to do so. Nanny states and dog-eat-dog right-wing paradises become meaningless concepts when one is engaged in their own plans using their own faculties to achieve their own destinies. I also started out with nothing, working hard on my own plans to achieve what I wanted. Today, I spend my time enjoying the fruits of my labor. In other words, I had little time or initiative to roam the streets complaining about not getting hand-outs or waiting for opportunities on golden platters to fall into my lap.
Did you face discrimination as well? I am pretty sure the Dalits in India, for instance, work very hard, doing mostly physical labour. But with discrimination, it is a rare one who had an opportunity to get the better of the system before reservations were instituted and even then they had someone to help them.
Of course. Irrelevant. Red herring. Your vicious oppression of your people doesn't compare to a democratic society. Pay attention and stop making a fool of yourself. Bullshit. I've met all kinds of people just like me, of all different nationalities. The one thing we all have in common is the will to get off our asses and do something unlike the Muslim youths in Paris.
Anecdotal evidence? Do you accept it in other contexts? Is it possible you are generalizing from a specific and positing a set that actually is not a set?
OK. You didn't understand. So what you would do if you were a French citizen who was a Muslim youth is..... Really? How did you figure that out?
So it is a democratic act when cops crash into two teenagers and run away, leaving them to die on the streets? Interesting; so in the above state, you would solve the problem by getting off your ass and doing something.
Too funny. Silliness in the extreme, sam. In the above state, I wouldn't be able to get off my ass for the laughing.
No doubt. Perhaps you could enlist to teach the cops to handle the deaths of the teenagers in a similar fashion; after all it does seem to be a regular occurrence.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
James R: Funny how you never mention socioeconomic factors whenever a white male commits a fuck up. In fact, if I even dare suggest that some white males have a hard old time, you reply in you Tiassa-lite tone: "Oh, those poor oppressed whites/males." The real problem is that lazy youth have a huge chip on their shoulder for Western, secular culture. But I've taken note of how you'll try and rationalize bad behaviour by non-whites, James. Any excuse will do, I guess.