Wormholes

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by Orleander, Oct 10, 2007.

  1. Reiku Banned Banned

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    Correct, but what i said may have been misleading. You see, they occur inside black holes, but they also happen in other places of the universe. In the ''so-called'' center of the universe where everything came from, you might even find a topological opening instead of a singularity.
     
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    say you could somehow create a worm hole and send one mouth to a empty point 1LY away at a large speed lets say 80% speed of light, because of relativity time will move 1,67 times slower at the traveling hole so the traveling hole will arrive in 0,74 years at the 1LY point altough it only seems to arrive at 1,25 years from our point of view.
    The quistion is how will time behave in the wormhole itself?
    If time is the same at both sides (like all theorie suggest according to what I know)
    Then you would be able to travel through the hole 0,74 years afther launch and arriva at the 1LY point (so you have travelled fasther then light)
    Is this wrong? If so why
     
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    Worm Holes are a bit more than just science fiction, worm holes can be mathematically described and theoretically can exist.

    There are many types of wormholes.

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    I strongly encourage you to read this pdf file on wormholes and their use:
    http://www.orionsarm.com/whitepapers/TraversableLorenzianWormholes-Overview.pdf

    On a side note: I have a gut feeling that information on wormholes and their use...is biased/fake...so beware
     
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  7. Reiku Banned Banned

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    This is similar to Michio Kaku's idea to take one end of a wormhole to a nuetron star, leave it there long enough so that the distortions make one end that has been in a slower gravitational force. Theoretically, you jump in one end, then come out the other a year in the past.
     
  8. orcot Valued Senior Member

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    Would that work? How can you go into negative time using gravity :bugeye:
     
  9. Reiku Banned Banned

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    Your able to move through the real dimension of time because the tunnel is a movement through a thickness in the spacetime fabric. If you keep one end near a gravitational body with a whopping intensity, like a neutron star, it will experience a distortion in time, then it will experience time slower.
    This won't ever change for the end of the wormhole. Once it has aged, it will stay aged, so anyone who jumps in one end, falls out the other end either a time in the future or a time in the past.
     
  10. fo3 acdcrocks Registered Senior Member

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    Define ""so-called'' center of the universe where everything came from" please.

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  11. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I can't believe all this discussion on an imaginary thing. Wormholes are no different than god. Belief without proof. Believing due to hope. Maybe a wormhole will take ya to heaven.
     
  12. Reiku Banned Banned

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    Fo3 - I say ''so-called'' because there is no such thing really in relativity.
     
  13. draqon Banned Banned

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    wormholes exist...in ocean.
     
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    http://www.orionsarm.com/whitepapers/TraversableLorenzianWormholes-Overview.pdf

    Hi Dragon. I'm one of the editors at Orion's Arm, and, yes, that is meant to be a serious summary of wormhole science, written by Adam Getchell who has written much of the rest of the material on OA about wormholes.

    Although that paper is serious, the rest of the material on Orion's Arm is fictional, and assumes that the technology needed to create traversable wormholes is achievable in reality. This may not be the case, but if it is, the characteristics of wormholes in reality may resemble our fictional version quite closely.
     
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  15. fo3 acdcrocks Registered Senior Member

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    So based on which theory do you derive this concept? I am specifically, but not only, referring to "the center of the university, where everything came from".
     
  16. Reiku Banned Banned

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    There is no center. In relativity, there are no straight lines, so it is impossible to define a center.
    But if i use an imaginary concept, we can box reality into an idiosyncratical method of saying that there is a center, but this center in real time represents the beginning, nothing more, but in imaginary time, there is no longer any beginning either*, so it cannot have had a unique beginning, like a singular region, or even a superwormhole. Indeed,if everything is expanding, then there is still ''a finite age for the universe,'' Dr Hawking informs us. So i interpret the center of the universe from an imaginary point of view.

    *This is how Dr. Hawking eliminated the big bang, and made the surface of the universe similar to the two-dimensional surface of the earth.
     

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