Why doesn't God save everyone in this world?

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  1. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    And by the casting of that stone is their innocence lost.
    To be saved from the god's wrath by the god's sacrifice: to be the stoner or the stoned. Some choice!
     
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  3. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    If you realize angels are virtues like help, and quaint, demons are things like death, and rape. Cast thy stones.
     
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  5. R1D2 many leagues under the sea. Valued Senior Member

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    Yeesh
    You are taking this post out of context. Its not meant in a pedophile type way.
     
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  7. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    I didn't think so, but how did you mean it?
     
  8. Balerion Banned Banned

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    You're missing the point of the question. The reason we do not give PhD's to people without the right amount of schooling is because it is impossible to teach someone all of the techniques and procedures in an amount of time considerably shorter than that. God is not similarly limited; he could, theoretically, snap his celestial fingers and make us all understand everything he wants us to know.

    I find it to be a hallmark of the amateur apologist to simultaneously expound the limitless powers of their god and claim his shortcomings as necessary while likening them to some real-world example, such as we see here with PhDs. Some of you really need to refine your arguments.
     
  9. Balerion Banned Banned

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    Who said anything about pedophiles?
     
  10. Syne Sine qua non Valued Senior Member

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    Why do some people have low self-esteem?
     
  11. rodereve Registered Member

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    the only way to answer this is with a religious answer. It is said that sin is the separation of man from God, the more you sin, the more you're farther from God. It's said in revelations that in the second coming, all the evil people will go into hiding because they can't bear to stand the holiness of God, or even be in his presence. So they wouldn't be able to bear being in Heaven. so actually God is saving them the pain by sending them to hell instead (with the eternal fire and such) lol

    I guess the proper answer would be (hypothetically), that everyone who has sinned must die (just like Adam/Eve lost immortality by the original sin). If you don't accept salvation, you won't be saved. So only people that accept salvation will go to Heaven, the rest go to Hell. hell has been thought to be a hypothetical place or an allegory, but I think that if there was a heaven (with gold streets pearly gates endless singing and treasures), that every other place relative to it would be considered Hell.
     
  12. Balerion Banned Banned

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    Not at all. One could say "Because there is no God."

    It wouldn't be satisfactory to someone who won't allow for that to be a possibility, but then that person is really only seeking reassurance, not truth, and they're not who that answer is for.
     
  13. jayleew Who Cares Valued Senior Member

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    Good point. If God was truly omniscient, it would have not had to retry so many times. How can people say that "god is perfect" when he had to keep trying? Each step of creation was not called good/finished until man was created. Then, no, he messed up again and man was lonely so he had to make woman. Then mankind sinned and continued to sin so God had to wipe them out with a flood. Much later God wanted to wipe everyone out again and start with Moses until Moses talked God out of the idea. Clearly God is not perfect or omniscient, if there is a God.
     

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